TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

Blimy. No one's even bothering to discuss it.

HJ

TOP GEAR - oldroverboy.

Didn't Watch.

Thank heavens for DAB and IPTV,

Gave up radio 2 in the mornings till 09.30-12.00 and 1700-1900.

Didn't like the friday thing. TFI or the one show.

A 50 year old in a teenagers body and mental processes.

TOP GEAR - madf

I refuse to watch Evans.

TOP GEAR - gordonbennet

I didn't watch it, and i won't be bothering, Evans ruins everything he touches for me.

However, the previous show, and its presenters, were years past their sell by date anyway, for me at least...lad culture might suit the overgrown children who presented it but one can only stand so many re-enactments of a trio of self worshipping overpaid pre pubescents being metaphorically handed the keys to the sweet shop.

What galls me most is i'm forced to pay for this tripe out of the BBC extortion levy.

TOP GEAR - RT

Watched it - same format as before, just new faces - rubbish!

TOP GEAR - Dwight Van Driver

Tuned in ......3 minutes tuned out.

What is the point of this programme and that b....... Geek Evans.

Oh dreeearie me

dvd

TOP GEAR - daveyjp
I tried, but it proved it was the presenters which made the old programme successful and the format does not now work.

Halfway through watching a Reliant on the back of a car transporter I'd had enough. It was then on in the background, but I wasn't drawn away from the ipad for the next 40 minutes.

However, the documentary about the Battle of Jutland on afterwards was excellent!
TOP GEAR - focussed

The previous Clarkson-Hammond-May format was just about watchable, mainly because of the interaction and banter between the three of them.

To try to replace that is impossible - I didn't bother watching it.

TOP GEAR - Boroman
It was truly dreadful; hackneyed, cliched rubbish. Only Sabine Schmitz looked remotely comfortable and natural but you knew she just had to lose her "challenge" with ace driver Evans.
Won't be watching it again, as without the rapport of May, Hammon & Clarkson the format is surprisingly weak.
TOP GEAR - groaver

I didn't watch it, and i won't be bothering, Evans ruins everything he touches for me.

However, the previous show, and its presenters, were years past their sell by date anyway, for me at least...lad culture might suit the overgrown children who presented it but one can only stand so many re-enactments of a trio of self worshipping overpaid pre pubescents being metaphorically handed the keys to the sweet shop.

What galls me most is i'm forced to pay for this tripe out of the BBC extortion levy.

You nailed it, gb.

I thought it was just me having to justfy my loathing for this purile nonsense when all around shouted "Emperor's new clothes!"

TOP GEAR - Dogfuzz

The BBC's publicity department will say this has been a success. The BBC's commercial arm will will report it as a flop as overseas sales plummet.

TOP GEAR - Happy Blue!

Was barbequing with friends and we all said 'Oh Top Gear's on' and continued to eat meat and drink beer.

TOP GEAR - Happy Blue!

Just heard on BBC R4 news. 4.4M viewers. Chris Evans said he would be disappointed with less than 5M.

Edited by Happy Blue! on 30/05/2016 at 12:09

TOP GEAR - focussed

Was barbequing with friends and we all said 'Oh Top Gear's on' and continued to eat meat and drink beer.

The BBC doesn't approve of that.

TOP GEAR - corax

Truly dreadful. If it carries on like that then surely the plug will be pulled after the first season.

I feel sorry for Sabine Schmitz being involved. Chris Harris is a good presenter/driver but now I learn that he'll only be online.

Never liked Evans and hoped that the other presenters would maybe make it bearable, but his shouty, high pitched personality ruined it.

If they were having a completely different set of people they should have changed the format - it's not going to work again because it was set up for the previous presenters personalities.

TOP GEAR - RobJP

Five minutes of Matt Le Blank Expression and Chris 'good on radio' Evans was enough to have us changing over.

Too much trying to be Clarkson et al, too much rushing to get it back on air and proving to Clarkson that they didn't need him to be successful.

Truly dire.

TOP GEAR - John F

Oh dear. Used to be funny silly, now just silly silly. Why is Mr Evans always SHOUTING?

TOP GEAR - Wukl

It's a shame if Chris Harris is to be sidelined to the on-line show only. Aside from his shrewd reviewing skills, I was hoping his exploits in the Team Parker Bentley would open the wider public's eyes to the Blancpain Endurance series and GT racing in general. Not that the N24 went well for him or Sabine this weekend...

TOP GEAR - barney100

Two presenters only? dynamics might wear a bit thin but the show was a good try. I would like another presenter to be added.

TOP GEAR - Doc

I gave up watching after 15 minutes. Not good.

TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

I wasn't able to see it at all. Been reading the Tweets and Pistonheads. Getting a different reaction here. A sort of a more mature one. Do any of you watch the 25 or so other car shows on various TV and online? Like: 'Street Outlaws New Orleans', 'Roadkill', 'Wheeler Dearers', 'b****in' cars', 'Countin' Cars', 'The Car Chasers', 'Fast 'n Loud', 'Misfit Garage', etc., etc., (I don't expect you to go overboard on 'Overhaulin'.)

TOP GEAR - groaver

I do quite like Wheeler Dealers, though how many times you have to repeat the same things over and over in one show to fill time. I suppose we have American TV to thank for that...

It's also pretty iffy how Ed China's time for repairing the cars never needs to be factored in to the cost...

TOP GEAR - John Boy

Getting a different reaction here. A sort of a more mature one.

Is that a "put-down" or something to do with pensioners?

TOP GEAR - coopshere
A very uncharismatic boring American teamed with the same type of Englishman, recipe for disaster and it was just that. Even the previous crowd had reached their sell by date. Won't be watching it again.
TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

Not a put-down at all. Marks our forum as completely different from Pistonheads, as we always knew it was. There's so much frantic over enthusiasm for performance cars in the mags and on the Internet that it's all gone a bit nuts. Only about three of the blokes who write about these cars can actually afford them. There are dozens of sit-down awards ceremonies at £200 a place setting, which the PRs are heartily sick of but daren't refuse in case their cars get a kicking. Twitter is chokka with posters posting about the latest hot car press trip they went on, which is what the manufacturers want, of course, but isn't exactly journalism. And now we've got Top Gear, Extra Gear and, if you subscribe to Amazon Prime, The Grand Tour. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and can't find anything I want to watch on it until TGT arrives because I can plunder TIVO any night of the week for stuff I do want to watch.

HJ

TOP GEAR - concrete

Wasn't really a fan of the previous show and after 10 minutes of this, deja vu all over again!!!! Only watched a bit because SWMBO likes Evans on the radio, she soon got fed up it too. Click and off. The car revue Evans writes in the Event Mail on Sunday magazine is pretty poor too. Full of hyperbole and laboured story telling to finally reach a 'telling' point about the vehicle he is to drive that day! Pretty poor stuff and carried over to the TV now. I know it is not designed as a revue platform for Mondeo man, but as that represents the vast majority of the buying public, they could at least try to be inclusive.

Mind you, even the Telegraph Motoring section is not above revueing cars that few can afford. I suspect that if you can afford a Merc S class or a Roller then you wouldn't necessarily get your information from the newpaper. But week after week it is a car very few would consider buying. I wonder who they intend to appeal to? The best bit by far is the Q&A and the superb puns in the headings.

Cheers Concrete

TOP GEAR - RobJP

Not a put-down at all. Marks our forum as completely different from Pistonheads, as we always knew it was. There's so much frantic over enthusiasm for performance cars in the mags and on the Internet that it's all gone a bit nuts. Only about three of the blokes who write about these cars can actually afford them. There are dozens of sit-down awards ceremonies at £200 a place setting, which the PRs are heartily sick of but daren't refuse in case their cars get a kicking. Twitter is chokka with posters posting about the latest hot car press trip they went on, which is what the manufacturers want, of course, but isn't exactly journalism. And now we've got Top Gear, Extra Gear and, if you subscribe to Amazon Prime, The Grand Tour. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and can't find anything I want to watch on it until TGT arrives because I can plunder TIVO any night of the week for stuff I do want to watch.

HJ

I think that's what we all like on here, HJ. Whilst I (and I'm sure plenty of others) on here are, or have been, petrolheads over the years, we look at the modern press releases on various cars and put our heads in our hands.

'Churnalism' at it's worst when the reporters just copy/paste what they've been given, typo's and all !

Thankfully rare on here, and you certainly aren't scared of standing up to poor customer service and shoddy quality. Without you, the DSG issues, ford's clutch release problems, BMW and VW timing chains, VW waterpumps, along with lots of other issues, would be a bit of a black art of knowledge, and the average punter far less informed.

One of the others is commonly known as the JLR fan club. When the Jag they had on a group test for a few days broke down (twice !) they still didn't put it bottom of the group test !

Oh, another great thing on here : interaction from yourself. Even to the extent of starting a thread wondering why none of us had started a thread on a subject !

TOP GEAR - John Boy

Not a put-down at all.

HJ

An interesting example of how misunderstandings can arise - I interpreted "here", in your post, as where you are geographically, rather than here on this forum. I didn't watch the programme so I can't comment. I never managed to watch more than a few minutes of Top Gear - it was just too "laddish" for me.

The kind of car reviews, which interest me most, are those where the reviewer has spent his own money on the vehicle - owner reviews on here are a good example. I also enjoyed a feature in one of the serious newspapers where they supplied a new car for a "man in the street" to review, rather than a journalist.

TOP GEAR - Warning

I love the (old) Top Gear and I thought it was hillarious and I love the journey and the producer challences. Just glad a few a few old episodes are still running on UK Gold.

I have never been a fan of Chris Evans as a TV Presenter, he seems to be a marmiate choice for me.

Though surprised they did not choose someone like Rebecca Jackson for Top Gear....

TOP GEAR - xtrailman

I watched it and thought the american was great, red head a bit loud.

A huge improvement over the old crap, but it does need new content.

TOP GEAR - Trilogy.

Having intended only to watch the first few minutes, then the remainder on iplayer so I could skip the bad bits, I watched the whole programme. I'm not really a fan of CE if I can see him. On first viewing I'd say TG would be better off without both him and Matt LeBlank. So who would I suggest to replace them? Just watched TGExtra on iplayer and in my opinion it wasn't at all cringeworthy, unlike the main programme. Rory Reid, Chris Harris and Sabine seem so much more natural. Reid appears to have chemistry with both of them too.

Hope the BBC realise who the duff presenters are and replace them with ones who should have been there in the first place.

TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

American verdict on NTG here: jalopnik.com/what-the-hell-top-gear-1779481253?utm...w

HJ

TOP GEAR - Ethan Edwards

Dire. Evans just awful.

TOP GEAR - daveyjp
I see the BBC were desperate to keep us talking about it. I was only in the car twice yesterday, before 11am and after 1pm and 5live were promoting the programme on both occasions. Morning was initial reaction, afternoon was reviewing what callers had said during the morning!! Dire stuff.
TOP GEAR - kiss (keep it simple)

It was rather safe and dull. I was hoping CE would come up with something more imaginative.

TOP GEAR - Eddy56

I thought it was pretty good given it was their first show and in the back ground they had huge amounts of pressure and expectation. I think they need a bit of time, they need to build the rapport between the presenters, give the viewers time to get over the old show and also time to develop the show and take it into some new territory. I think the first show was always going to be a bit awkward and it was never going to meet expectations. I think it's a question of getting a few shows done and then gradually building it from there. I think it will come good with time as they settle in and work things out.

TOP GEAR - merlin

For me there were a few moments that were entertaining such as Matt LeBlanc getting into the Nomad, however overall I was disappointed. Why has the format hardly changed? If the situation had been reversed and it was Clarkson taking over a successful established show, then I'm sure he would have done things very differently to put his own mark on the show.

As for the presenters, Chris Evans some how didn't fit in the role. Perhaps he was trying too hard and being shouty didn't help.

Matt LeBlanc was better. I thought he was cool and amusing at times although not so sure when he was in the studio.

Sabine Schmitz was nothing special, yes she looks great and can no doubt drive very well, but is she really a presenter?

I enjoyed Chris Harris driving round the track, but in the studio he didn't look at all comfortable.

Rory Reid came across well. I was impressed. Pity he isn't doing the main show with Matt LeBlanc.

Anyone know what happened to Eddie Jordan? I thought he was meant to be in the line up too.

TOP GEAR - daveyK_UK
I thought the new show was poor and the presenters lacked chemistry
TOP GEAR - HandCart

I think a lot of why the old presenters were popular was because they never took themselves too seriously: It was that old British 'underdog' thing, where they had personae that came across as 'not terribly competent'.
The average Brit can identify with that, warms to it, and feels comfortable with its self-deprecating undertone.

Matt Leblanc is never going to come across in that way - he won't want to risk losing a 'cool' image (for himself, rather than as a character part). And Evans too was just trying too hard to be likeable and competent.

Yes Evans was shouty. But they've increased the size of the 'studio' and the audience - different, but not necessarily better, and as a result, one thing that really really irritated me was the 'echoey' audio quality of the dialogue in the studio. Lost any intimacy it may have had before. Which further added to the trying-too-hard "HEY WE'RE ALL HAVING A RIP-ROARING GREAT PARTY-LIKE TIME HERE, AREN'T WE!!" demeanour conveyed towards us.

A fair effort, but it made me curl one end of my mouth up, slowly shake my head, and sigh "Heeummmmmm.."

TOP GEAR - xtrailman

I thought it was a great improvement over the old tired and frankly boring presenters from the old series.

Not perfect but has potential. Evans needs to relax and not try to much, or shout so loud.

TOP GEAR - Trilogy.

Pretty well same format as before, can't see it was an improvement let alone a great one. Chris Harris needs to be moved from the Extra programme to the main one. He actually knows his stuff. Perhaps the other Chris is concerned he'll get shown up.

TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

There weren't always seemingly more car nutters than car haters. Back in the late 1960s, anyone who talked about cars got chucked out of the pub. So, to console ourselves and natter endlessly of 'bhp' and '0-60' and times from 'A' to 'B' while we weren't out trying to kill ourselves on the then-empty roads, we used to gather in the back of a mate's speed shop on Market Street for coffees and fags and each others car magazines. The name of that speed shop might have given someone at the BBC an idea. It was called 'Top Gear'.

TOP GEAR - Ben 10
Give it a chance. Everyone comparing and wanting it axed after 1 episode. Let it bed in.

Agree Evans shouting is annoying and Le Blanc is not a presenter but it may improve. I'll decide to continue with it after the series ends. As for content, they need to have the news section back, maybe with a petrolhead bit covering motoring products etc.
TOP GEAR - slkfanboy
Give it a chance. Everyone comparing and wanting it axed after 1 episode. Let it bed in. Agree Evans shouting is annoying and Le Blanc is not a presenter but it may improve. I'll decide to continue with it after the series ends. As for content, they need to have the news section back, maybe with a petrolhead bit covering motoring products etc.

It simply won't as the presenters have nothing in common with each other and lets face it, it was a rather tired format already

It need a revamp and it didn't happen even the camera was poor in contrast too what I would expect

TOP GEAR - paulc924

I gave it a chance because the stupid stunts of the old programme were just farcical. I wish I hadn't bothered. A total waste of time and electricity. Just think how much of the licence fee has been wasted here.

TOP GEAR - Honestjohn

Finally found a way to watch 'Wheeler Dealers' Civic CVCC and LUV. Thumbs up to Mike and Edd for keeping the same formula interesting and good to see Mike get his hands dirty. Also found NTG. Noisy box. Wanted to change up, but couldn't find Extra Gear.

TOP GEAR - bazza

I thought Matt Leblanc held it together really, with his super-cool dry humour and poking fun at the Brits. CE needs to relax and calm down a bit and we haven't seen enough of Sabine yet, clearly she's a highly skilled and competitive sort. Content may improve, it's early days. Even less car content than before!

TOP GEAR - Trilogy.

Sunday night's was so much better than the first on in this series.

Job done?

TOP GEAR - Gibbo_Wirral

Not by a long shot. Episode 3 was good because there was little Evans air time. But he was back to his normal self on Sunday.

TOP GEAR - Trilogy.

It was job done last night.

TOP GEAR - colinh

Top Gear USA, which was shown on the History chaanel there, has been cancelled after six seasons. BBC Worldwide looking around for a new sponsor

TOP GEAR - sandy56

the new TG is awful. Let it die.

There is space for a new motoring program for real petrol heads and not the noisy children.