Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query

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Sat 15 Jul 2017 22:51
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - Honest Question

Hello, I am looking at buying a second hand cars, but I am not very knowledgeable about vehicle technical matters.

I have recently viewed a 2011 diesel Ford Fiesta and a 2012 diesel Peugeot 308 and I noticed something in common with both of them, which didn't seem normal to me. They both seemed to have part of the engine covered in a knobbled casing which didn't look quite right.

I have included photos of the individual engines and a close up of the section I am referring to in the links below, so hopefully they work! Is this normal and if not, is it something that I should be concerned about? Also if anybody sees any other issues please let me know.

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Edited by Honest Question on 15/07/2017 at 22:54

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Sat 15 Jul 2017 22:57
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - RobJP

Heat shields. Basically they are there to prevent transmission of heat to areas that may be vulnerable to heat.

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Sat 15 Jul 2017 23:08
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - Honest Question

Thanks Rob for the quick response. So is that how they normally look? Nothing of concern with their appearance?

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Sun 16 Jul 2017 08:17
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - SLO76
Hold your horses! This will be the same PSA 1.6 diesel that's often written about on this forum. It has a terrible reputation of mechanical failure and should be avoided at all costs.

I'd stick to petrol unless you're doing a massive mileage, a 5yr or older usd DPF equipped diesel is more often than not a complete false economy. I advise a rethink and some time spent googling Peugeot 1.6 HDi or Ford 1.6 TDCi engine failure/faults to see the scale of the problem. It's widespread.

Edited by SLO76 on 16/07/2017 at 08:20

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Sun 16 Jul 2017 09:20
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - Peter.N.

Probably the best diesel engine that PSA ever made was the 8 vlave 2.0. Hdi, they were used in Peugeots and Citroens up until about 2004, the have no DPF and are practically bombproof

In fact I would say that the Peugeot 406 Hdi is probably the best car they have made, good for well over 200k many doing in excess of 300k and they just don't go wrong - not seriously anyway. The 306 uses the same engine as do several Citroens.

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Sun 16 Jul 2017 09:30
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - SLO76

Probably the best diesel engine that PSA ever made was the 8 vlave 2.0. Hdi, they were used in Peugeots and Citroens up until about 2004, the have no DPF and are practically bombproof

In fact I would say that the Peugeot 406 Hdi is probably the best car they have made, good for well over 200k many doing in excess of 300k and they just don't go wrong - not seriously anyway. The 306 uses the same engine as do several Citroens.

Correct. I've seen one of these 8v 2.0 HDi's with well over 800,000 miles and I've sold E7 taxis with in excess of 300k and running fine. Do not make the mistake of confusing the excellent 2.0 8v HDi with the later 1.6 HDi's though even in the later 'improved' 8v form. This is a notoriously fragile engine and is very much disliked by the trade. They can expire before 60,000 miles.
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Mon 17 Jul 2017 14:01
Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 - Ford Fiesta/Peugeot 308 Engine query - Gibbo_Wirral

On this picture:

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The soundproofing at the back of the engine shouldn't be in this poor state.The plastic scuttle at the bottom of the windscreen also looks like its not been cleaned in a long time. Avoid.

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