One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - Trilogy.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-230TE-Estate-Auto...s

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - Steveieb
How much did it sell for Trilogy!
One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - Trilogy.

Sorry, don't know.

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - SLO76
The last real Mercedes. The 124 series was about quality and longevity over all else. After this Merc went for volume and quality plummeted. Today they’re no better than the French with few Mercs making it past 15 yrs of age.
One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - Trilogy.
Today they’re no better than the French with few Mercs making it past 15 yrs of age.

Hmmmm.....on autotrader there are 582 Mercedes between the years of 2002 and 2003 for sale.

Citroen 143

Peugeot 231

Renault 191

Collectively for all mainstream French cars 565.

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - SLO76
“Hmmmm.....on autotrader there are 582 Mercedes between the years of 2002 and 2003 for sale.

Citroen 143

Peugeot 231

Renault 191

Collectively for all mainstream French cars 565.”


That has more to do with the values of said vehicles than any higher standard of durability. Looking at that list 104 of those Mercs were selling for in excess of £7,000 and the bulk of these were specialist SLK, SL or AMG models that have strong enough value to warrant spending money on major repairs both to flakey electronics and p*** poor rust protection.

The French on the other hand were almost all next to worthless and any moderate to major failure would mean scrapping it.

If we were to base our understanding of reliability on your suggestion here then Subaru would be far worse than Land Rover, Ford would be one of the top 3 brands and Honda would be ranked far below Mini or Vauxhall. Jaguar would be more than three times as reliable as Lexus and Kia would be almost dead last!

I believe your logic is somewhat flawed.
One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - barney100
Today they’re no better than the French with few Mercs making it past 15 yrs of age.

Loads of Mercs over 15 years and older about. Classic Mercs are making megabucks.

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - SLO76
“Loads of Mercs over 15 years and older about. Classic Mercs are making megabucks.”

Not run of the mill stuff. A, C and E classes from the mid 90’s rarely make it out of bangerdom and again only if it’s an AMG or the like. Yes SL’s will always fetch money and be worthy of having money spent but they still suffer badly from problems as they age. Don’t mistake the Mercs of pre 95 with the rubbish produced after, they’re not in the same league.
One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - jthan

As the cartoon sketch in (I think) The Times showed back then on the announcement day:

With apologies to Janis Joplin:

"Oh Lord don't you buy me a new DaimlerChrysler..."

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - 520i

I owned several original A Class, and part of the problem is parts prices. The cost of replacement bits for a largely worthless banger appear to remain astronomical if said banger is a Mercedes, with the result that it often just isn't worth any attempt to keep the thing on the road. Add to that of course the fact that the A Class in particular was designed never to be fettled by the hand of anybody but your friendly local Merc dealer, which means that some garages won't touch the things as repairs can be enormously time consuming and a massive ballache (engine upside down etc). Plus, as SLO76 says, nil rustproofing and inevitably rotten arches etc.

A shame really, the A Class was a superb concept, just executed clumsily and by the wrong manufacturer (it would have sat so much better in a VW catalogue!).

Edited by 520i on 04/03/2018 at 22:25

One owner from new, fsh, 489,000 miles. - Mr Carrot Cake

I knew someone who had an early 90s Merc 10 years ago and it ended up failing its MOT because the front wheel assembly was about to go through the bodywork due to corrosion.