Hogging the outside lane - Mapmaker
I've become quite used to cars hogging the middle lane. I almost enjoy coming out of hibernation in the inside lane, clipping their rear bumper as I go to the outside lane, and clipping the front bumper on the way back.


I'm not quite sure though how to deal with a new phenomenon - that of cars hogging the outside lane. If I'm cruising merrily in the inside lane, and there's nothing between us then the best solution appears to be to stay where I am to go past. Anybody else noticed this? It seemed to be much more widely done on the A1 than the M1.
Hogging the outside lane - Morris Ox
The absent-mindedness or arrogance of other drivers can be annoying, but I'm not sure if 'clipping their rear bumper as I go to the outside lane' and 'clipping their front bumper on the way back' is doing much for your reputation either.

The best solution is always the safest and least antagonistic route - ignore them if it's safe to do so.
Hogging the outside lane - Civic8
I'm not quite sure though how to deal with a new phenomenon - that of cars hogging the outside lane.

since when is it new.Has been going on for years even when the middle/inside lane is clear.happens a lot on the A/M20 A/2/M2
there isnt a way to deal with it.but they do say ignorance is bliss ie to those that do it.
Hogging the outside lane - Dynamic Dave
I'm not quite sure though how to deal with a new
phenomenon - that of cars hogging the outside lane.


Undertake them, then move into the outside lane in front of them and reduce your speed. They'll either stay behind you or move into another lane to go by you.
Hogging the outside lane - Honestjohn
That's the main offence drivers get done for in Thailand. Where, if both driving lanes on a two lane carriageway are occupied, the faster drivers use the hard shoulder to overtake.

HJ
Hogging the outside lane - Hull4000
All lanes except the inside lane should be available for overtaking. Lorries should be restricted to the inside lane.

It's the 10 mile overtaking manoevre by one lorry going at 60mph in the middle lane and another on the inside lane going at 59 which causes a lot of unnecessary congestion.
Hogging the outside lane - Honestjohn
The reason why one truck doing 60 takes a long time to overtake another doing 59 is because it\'s governed to 60. If it wasn\'t governed then it could complete its manouvre much more quickly. Remember, everything you buy and the components of everything that is made in this country is delivered by road. They come by road because the rail system took far too long and tied up too much cash for too long. Without trucks we\'d all be starving.

HJ
Hogging the outside lane - Alyn Beattie
HJ

The speed limit for lorries on a motorway is 60mph They are fitted with speed limiters that cut in at 56mph (EU rules). The problem arises because the limiter drops the speed of the vehicle to 53 mph and then allows it to proceed. This more than anything else causes the overtaking problem. When I was driving for a living the engines were governed to around 60mph,but you could keep this as a constant speed. Still drive a big bendy on a recreational basis (hauling a steam traction engine around) and the limiter thing can drive you mad.



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Alyn Beattie

I'm sane, it's the rest of the world that's mad.
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
. Still drive
a big bendy on a recreational basis (hauling a steam traction
engine around) and the limiter thing can drive you mad.


Does this mean that I'll see you at Tarrant Hinton for the Great Dorset Booze Up (sorry, that's Great Dorset Steam Fair) this August?
Hogging the outside lane - Alyn Beattie
No Dosh

Find a Fowler showmans tractor called Forest Maiden. I will not be far away. (Beer tent is about 150 yards from same)


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Alyn Beattie

I'm sane, it's the rest of the world that's mad.
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
You're on. Pint of Tanglefoot, is it?
Hogging the outside lane - Alyn Beattie
Wot!!! Only one?


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Alyn Beattie

I'm sane, it's the rest of the world that's mad.
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
Well, just the one to start with. Got to bring your own tankard, mind. Not the same drinking it out of plastic.

Mrs ND and I can be heard clanking our way back to the tent each night, our empty vessels making much noise as we stumble over guy ropes, sleeping farmers and discarded landrovers. A great way to lose 3 days out of every 365.
Hogging the outside lane - Alyn Beattie
Hmm

You and most of the people on the site (me included). Why don't we try to organise a backroom get together for anyone who attends the biggest steam fair in the world?
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Alyn Beattie

I'm sane, it's the rest of the world that's mad.
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
Hmm
You and most of the people on the site (me included).
Why don't we try to organise a backroom get together for
anyone who attends the biggest steam fair in the world?



What a terrible idea! Combining scores of traction engines, vintage cars, buses, trucks and military vehicles with camping facilities, beer tents, autojumble, live music and a bunch of people from the Backroom. It would never work..... would it?
Hogging the outside lane - Alyn Beattie
would it? Yes


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Alyn Beattie

I'm sane, it's the rest of the world that's mad.
Hogging the outside lane - NorthernKev {P}
Welcome back HJ.

I don't understand your problem with outside lane hoggers, all I have is when it's an empty motorway is some maniac undertake me, now THAT'S annoying

Kev
Hogging the outside lane - BazzaBear {P}
Welcome back HJ.
I don't understand your problem with outside lane hoggers, all I
have is when it's an empty motorway is some maniac undertake
me, now THAT'S annoying
Kev


I take it that's a joke?
If not, could I point out that if you were in the correct lane on your empty motorway, it would be impossible to undertake you, unless they use the hard shoulder?
Hogging the outside lane - BikeBoy
I'm with Kev on this one.

You obviously fail to realise the outside lane is for BMW drivers only.

Please do resist the urge to drive in it when you are not correctly equipped. ;)

BB
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
I take it that's a joke?
If not, could I point out that if you were in
the correct lane on your empty motorway, it would be impossible
to undertake you, unless they use the hard shoulder?


Chill Bazza, Chill. Kev was joking. Now go and have a lie down, there's a good bear.
Hogging the outside lane - NowWheels
Chill Bazza, Chill. Kev was joking. Now go and
have a lie down, there's a good bear.


In any case, Kev is not legally allowed to use the fast lane.

As a driver of a FIAT Punto, he is entitled to neither the permanenent fast-lane tenancy which BMW sells with its cars, not the day-stay permits which Mondeo drivers somehow obtain.

Not sure which Road Traffic Act specifies this, but no doubt the lawyers will be along soon to help ...
Hogging the outside lane - NorthernKev {P}
But if it wasn't for me who would BMW drivers rant at being in their way? Think about it, it's like litter. If no-one dropped litter then there'd be a lot of litter-sweepers [the guys, not the machines] out of jobs.

Kev [feeling mischevous]
Hogging the outside lane - Civic8
Strange I posted a joke about BMW Drivers a while back.so far it seems they do own the road.Can`t think why they think it.as they seem to get as agravated about road hogging as us less primitive motor drivers.wonder why? speed limit is only 70mph but gather bm`s unlimited.like the pun though
Hogging the outside lane - patently
Actually, many BMWs are fitted with limiters. Limit is 155, though. Quite how this would ever have an effect on a UK road is beyond me, I have to say.
Hogging the outside lane - BazzaBear {P}
Phew. Sorry about that.
My car is in having a part re-spray after someone reversed into her in a car-park, and I'm on somewhat of a short fuse on all things motoring at the moment due to the SOUL-DESTROYING MACHINE OF TORTURE that is the Ford Escort estate I'm currently being forced to drive.
If my life ever becomes so grey and wretched that I start to believe a car is just a method of getting from A to B, and I therefore consider a car of this type to be perfetly acceptable I just hope someone puts me out of my misery. Quick and painless would be favourite, thanks chaps.
(BTW, sorry about the caps lock, but it really was very necessary)
Hogging the outside lane - BazzaBear {P}
Addendum to last message: It was supposed to be a reply to ND and NorthernKev, apologising for my not taking the joke. It seems I forgot to quote.
Hogging the outside lane - No Do$h
'salright. Sorry to hear about your bella. May she make a swift and full recovery.
Hogging the outside lane - Mapmaker
Morris Ox wrote: 'The absent-mindedness or arrogance of other drivers can be annoying, but I'm not sure if 'clipping their rear bumper as I go to the outside lane' and 'clipping their front bumper on the way back' is doing much for your reputation either.'

But I was thinking I was in a fantasy world driving a Merc 123, with solid metal bumpers. It seemed the least I could do was to rearrange the ugly all-plastic Meganes which I'm told are designed to shatter in an accident. (In fact I was driving a Megan so everything went wrong when I tried that trick.)

Oh, and BMWs have plastic bumpers too, which react very well indeed to arrangement by a bit of proper metal. Problem is, that when they're in their rightful lane it's quite hard to go round them without driving on the central reservation. This unfortunately kicks up stones that damage shiny BMWs complete with patent gloss shine...
Hogging the outside lane - patently
patent gloss shine...


Sadly no more, mapmaker. 3 years hard labour and neglect have seen off whatever form of gloss was once there. So trading it in to a dealer who will polish it and care for it is indeed my last act of kindness to my trusty steed...
Hogging the outside lane - BazzaBear {P}
She'll be fine, it's the smallest amount of damage you can imagine. Unfortunately it's just about broken through the paint, so no Chipsaway possible, so it's goign to cost the bloke who did it £200. I bet he's regretting being honest about it now...
Oh, and as if I wasn't annoyed enough about motoring matters, the car-sgare scheme I participate in at work has just changed the permit stickers. The new style now say 'I share because I care' on them. I should point out to the people who designed this that I don't share so that people can laugh at the ridiculous things written on my car.
Hogging the outside lane - NorthernKev {P}
I had better let you off then. ;-)

Hope your car gets better soon. Your car share stickers do seem particularily vomit inducing, maybe on par with 'please drive slowly; small person on board'... Bleugh...

Kev
Hogging the outside lane - BazzaBear {P}
Actually, I should admit that my permit should really say 'I share because my wife works here too, and it'd be really stupid to get seperate cars', but it's not terribly catchy I'll admit.
Hmmm. I think I might be in danger of taking this thread off-topic. Sorry.