Latest News on Rover Parts - Honestjohn
Press Release received today, as it came:-

HJ

CATERPILLAR LOGISTICS SERVICES AND PHOENIX VENTURE HOLDINGS AGREE TO SALE OF MG ROVER\'S PARTS BUSINESS

Caterpillar Inc. subsidiary to acquire ownership of marketing, sales and distribution of MG Rover parts and accessories worldwide.

Desford, UK and Longbridge, UK - 9 July 2004 - Caterpillar Logistics Services (UK) Limited (\"Cat Logistics\"), a wholly owned subsidiary of Caterpillar Inc. (NYSE: CAT), and Phoenix Venture Holdings Limited (\"PVH\") are pleased to announce that they have reached an agreement for Cat Logistics to acquire the parts business of U.K. auto manufacturer, MG Rover, a wholly owned subsidiary of PVH.

The value of the transaction is in excess of £100 million, with an ongoing profit sharing agreement.

Cat Logistics will acquire MG Rover\'s parts business, which includes the sourcing, marketing, distribution and sale of automotive service parts and accessories to MG Rover dealers, distributors, importers and other related customers worldwide. Since 2001, Cat Logistics has managed these activities on behalf of MG Rover from its base in Desford, Leicestershire, UK. Cat Logistics currently supports an existing MG Rover vehicle population of more than 2.5 million.

In accordance with the terms of the acquisition agreement, PVH has an option to buy back MG Rover\'s parts business in four to five years.

\"The acquisition of MG Rover\'s parts business represents an attractive investment, while Cat Logistics is allowed to develop the best-in-class services it provides to the many MG Rover dealers, distributors, and importers worldwide,\" said Mary Bell, Chairman & President of Caterpillar Logistics, \"We have long valued our relationship with the MG Rover Group and Phoenix Venture Holdings, and our organization in Desford has considerable expertise in the purchasing, marketing and distribution of MG Rover aftermarket parts.\"

Kevin Howe, Group Chief Executive of Phoenix Venture Holdings said, \"This deal provides valuable resources which will be invested in our core business, the MG Rover Group ahead of the strategic relationship with Shanghai Automotive taking effect. With experience and capability built up over many years Cat Logistics is extremely well placed to continue to provide best in class service to MG Rover dealers, distributors and importers worldwide.\"

Completion of this agreement is subject to regulatory approval.

Current operations at the Cat Logistics Desford, UK MG Rover parts distribution facility will continue, with all 390 employees remaining with Cat Logistics, and all current employees of MG Rover\'s parts business provided with the opportunity to transition to Cat Logistics.



About Caterpillar Logistics Services, Inc.
In addition to their over 15 year relationship with Rover, Caterpillar Logistics Services, Inc. provides world-class supply chain solutions and services to its parent company, Caterpillar Inc., and more than 50 other leading corporations throughout the world. Headquartered in Morton, Illinois, Caterpillar Logistics operates more than 100 offices and facilities in 25 countries on six continents. Caterpillar Logistics provides its full service capabilities to companies in market sectors, which include automotive service parts, industrial service parts, consumer
durables, technology and electronics, manufacturing logistics, and aerospace service parts.

More information is available at www.catlogistics.com.

About Caterpillar Inc.
For more than 75 years, Caterpillar Inc. has been building the world\'s infrastructure and, in partnership with its worldwide dealer network, is driving positive and sustainable change in every continent. With 2003 sales and revenues of $22.76 billion, Caterpillar is a technology leader and the world\'s leading manufacturer of construction and mining equipment, diesel and natural gas engines and industrial gas turbines.
More information is available at www.cat.com

About Phoenix Venture Holdings Limited
Phoenix Venture Holdings Limited is a privately held British company with over 6,000 employees. Its wholly owned subsidiaries include MG Rover Group, Powertrain Limited and MG Sport & Racing.
Latest News on Rover Parts - frostbite
Do you suppose this might benefit the end-user in any way?
Latest News on Rover Parts - Mapmaker
I don't doubt that it will have benefited Phoenix!
Latest News on Rover Parts - Sofa Spud
Looks like selling off the family silver to me!!

Cheers, Sofa Spud
Latest News on Rover Parts - carl_a
They won't have anything else to sell soon, MG-Rover sold off the land the factory is standing in last year & parts distribution this year, what could be next ?
Latest News on Rover Parts - Aprilia
My guess that by the end of the decade 'Rover' will just be a badge that is stuck on vehicles made overseas (probably the Far East or India).

Anyone remember those great names of the British electronics industry - Pye and Bush ? A similar fate......?
Latest News on Rover Parts - patently
They won't have anything else to sell soon, ... what could be next ?


Perhaps they could try selling some cars?
Latest News on Rover Parts - king arthur
They won't have anything else to sell soon, MG-Rover sold off
the land the factory is standing in last year & parts
distribution this year, what could be next ?


What they need is cash now, to spend on developing the cars they need to be able to sell tomorrow. The parts business is capable of generating profits for sure, but not if the main car business runs out of money and folds. So selling it off, and the land too, makes good sense. They need to liquidate as many assets as possible.
Latest News on Rover Parts - Honestjohn
They\'re trying to sell off cars as well. But the trade is wise to this. See latest auction report. I have not seen such low bids for 9-12 month old cars for years.

HJ
Latest News on Rover Parts - sajid
are rover cars the pits ??
Latest News on Rover Parts - daveyK_UK
No sajid

no one doubts the rover 75/MG zt is the jewel in the crown.

Its just other cars such as the 25 and 45 have been around for so long, punters want something new and fesh. The face lifts are all fine and good but they are still limited.
It seems they are moving towards a citreon position of a european car maker with the major selling point of value.

The rover 45 is alot of car and spec for the money if we focus on the entry 1.4 car. Compared to similar size cars such as the focus, astra and golf it has greater ammount of equipment and the rover 1.4 is better performing.
But what stops me form buying a rover 45 which i would love to do is 3 things...
1. insurance band - its starts around band 8 - a focus, astra or golf 1.4 starts around band 4 - big difference.
2. - re-sale value - im going to certianly recover less than i would in equivelent european car.

I want to buy british and i want to buy rover, but it doesnt make sense.
what concerns me as a male under 28 is insurance bands. I dont understand why rover have such high insurance bands?
the rover 25 is also particulary bad - and the city rover is band 5! - band 5 for a city car is ridiculous.
The suzuki dealer i was talking to recently at belle vue was putting through the auction in a weeks time 10 suzuki alto's he just couldn't shift. He put down as one of the major factors the insurance costs - band 5 for a 1.0 suzuki!

Also the rover city car is over-priced by 2 grand. Yes im sure they make big profits from every sale but if they compared this to the cost of loss of respect for the badge and future sales the profit line would be significantly reduced.


Anyhow as for the parts thing, can it be any worse? The system is already a mess so surely caterpillar can only improve it.

good luck, and lets offer us something to purchase in the future please.
Latest News on Rover Parts - Sooty Tailpipes
"I want to buy british and i want to buy rover, but it doesnt make sense.
what concerns me as a male under 28 is insurance bands. I dont understand why rover have such high insurance bands? "

Maybe the standard repair cost is high. with it being such an old model and parts being like hen's teeth?


I rather like the 75, but is was too expensive when I looked at them, and the other models are just mediocre cars of last century with extra plastic stuck on to tart them up. They are just far too slow at bringing out new models, look how the Rover 600 was out from abot D reg to Y reg. (14 years!)
Latest News on Rover Parts - mare
They are just far too slow at bringing out
new models, look how the Rover 600 was out from abot
D reg to Y reg. (14 years!)



Totally agree, but being picky

Rover 600 (a.k.a Honda Accord) - 1993 - 1998

Rover 800 - 1986 - 1998 with a significant facelift in 1991. My stepfather had a V reg one in 1999 at a 40% discount, but it probably a year old when he bought it.

Latest News on Rover Parts - Honestjohn
In response to Sooty Tailpipes, £8,650 didn't look too dear to me for a 14k mile 2003/53 75 1.8T Club SE auto at auction on Friday.

HJ
Latest News on Rover Parts - John Manson
"I want to buy british and i want to buy rover,
but it doesnt make sense.
what concerns me as a male under 28 is insurance bands.
I dont understand why rover have such high insurance bands? "
Maybe the standard repair cost is high. with it being such
an old model and parts being like hen's teeth?
I rather like the 75, but is was too expensive when
I looked at them, and the other models are just mediocre
cars of last century with extra plastic stuck on to tart
them up. They are just far too slow at bringing out
new models, look how the Rover 600 was out from abot
D reg to Y reg. (14 years!)


Could I suggest that you take another look at the 75; there are some very good deals on pre-face lifted models at the moment (see HonestJohns earlier reply). The MG-Rover direct website might be a good place to start.

I think your comments regarding the rest of the range are rather harsh. I assume you mean the MG saloon range when you refer to the ''extra plastic stuck on to tart them up''. A lot of work has been done on the mechanicals of these cars and they are really quite good, my wife has a ZR 160 (Britain?s best selling hot hatch) and it?s a real hoot to drive. The only criticism I have is the interior, but that has been changed in the 04 model.
Whilst accepting that the 25/ZR and 45/ZS are not the youngest cars around, I think it was Autocar that said that they should be judged for what they are now and not what they were.

Finally I don't no where you got the idea that the 600 was in production for 14 years, if started life in 1993 and was killed off by BMW in 1998 which is 5 years, some say because it competed to well against the3 series.




Latest News on Rover Parts - DL
You might just find the insurance banding is high because spare parts (back to topic!) are hard (sometimes impossible) to source for relatively new MG & Rover cars.

Hence the hire-car bills......
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Latest News on Rover Parts - edisdead {P}
I would like to know why the previous generation Swindon Civic 5 door hatchback is not universally slated like the Rover 400/45. Fair enough, the Honda badge lends more credibility these days, but they have the same dowdy interiors and dated looks. The Honda however, is a well respected 2nd hand buy and still holds its value reasonably well. Not so the Rover. Perhaps if a 45 replacement had come along about 3 years ago then it would be a different story.
Ed.
Latest News on Rover Parts - 3500S
No-one I've spoken to from the people my family knows in the local area can put their finger on the spares situation.

It's not a case of inventory, I recently got a set of tappets for a Rover v8 HC just by ringing up the local dealer spares dept. I got them in 24 hours.

My personal theory is the nature of their production, they have a fairly long order lead time for components and as they manufacture to order, I guess spares orders can be eroded in this way if orders pick up. MGR recently had to close CAB1's Longbridge line due to component's running out of stock.

I know Mayflower are a big supplier of body pressings for MGR and they had put this operation into administration which has only recently been sorted. Rover seem cursed with firms going to the wall.

In terms of the cars, the new facelifts have by and large been well received, Longbridge is currently on full weekend shifts to fulfil orders. Hopefully the sales figure might pick up.

The car everyone is waiting for is the 45 replacement, RDX/60, a Peter Stevens design, saloon, hatch, estate, MPV + 'others'. If TWR hadn't have gone bust, it would be on the market now, only another 12 months to wait, also there's almost £800m invested in this from SAIC and MGR.

It really is MGR's last chance saloon this time.