BMW 1 Series - Altea Ego
Saw my first today on the road in the City.

Black (of course) 120D?

Strange proportions, its all bonnet. looks okish from the front or back but the profile of a shoe (you know all sole with a bit of arch and heel at the back)
BMW 1 Series - patently
I like it - saw several at the weekend thanks to the local dealership, which had invited most of the locality to a nearby country park to look at the 1, X3 and X5 and have a go in them.

Interior is nice but not very BMW-ish in terms of quality.

Price is very BMW-ish.

BMW 1 Series - Honestjohn
Got a 120dSE outside. It\'s a fantastic machine. Solid as a rock. Wonderful steering. Goes like stink. And pulls an economical 37.5mph/1,000rpm in 6th. Will upload a test on Friday or Saturday.

HJ
BMW 1 Series - bartycrouch
Got a 120dSE outside. It\'s a fantastic machine. Solid as a
rock. Wonderful steering. Goes like stink. And pulls an economical 37.5mph/1,000rpm
in 6th. Will upload a test on Friday or Saturday.
HJ

I am absolutely sure you are right HJ, but so is Renault Family; even when you see one for real, they still look like a trainer on wheels.
BMW 1 Series - Pezzer
HJ, thankgoodness ! I've got a 120d on order arrives mid Nov (Sport may have been a mistake...too late now). Really interested in your review.
BMW 1 Series - Citroënian {P}
HJ,

I know that you like the 320td compact - would be very interested to know how it compares to the 120d (apart from the extra doors)

Thanks,
Lee.

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Lee
MINI adventure in progress
BMW 1 Series - BMDUBYA
I was lucky enopugh to be invited by BMW to test drive the 1 series around the Rockingham race course, fantastic day, fantastic car, it will defo knock the Golf and Audi A3 sideways:-))) Bring it on!
BMW 1 Series - No Do$h
fantastic car, it will defo knock the Golf and Audi A3
sideways:-))) Bring it on!


Should that not be \"The driver will brush the Golf and Audi A3 aside with his white stick\"?
BMW 1 Series - Burnout2
Seen a few dahn' my way, and they look much better in darker colours (the same applies, not entirely coincidentally, to the 5 & 7). The M version - which obviously won't be designated M1 - should be very interesting if what I read about a naturally aspirated 300bhp 3.0 straight-six is true.
BMW 1 Series - Honestjohn
Road Test up on site today, at: www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=146

HJ
BMW 1 Series - Avant
This may be a boring question - but then I\'m a chartered accountant - but is it really a good idea not to have a spare wheel, as HJ\'s test mentions?

I\'m sure a run-flat tyre is fine if you just pick up a nail: but sometimes a much bigger hole can happen. Then surely you have to call someone out.

Am I missing something obvious? Someone please tell me if I\'m failing to join the 21st century....If not, thank goodness for Audi and the full-size spare wheel.

And a final accountant\'s thought - Blooming Mouldy Wagons are charging a premium for this car over its competitors, for one fewer tyre. So that\'s an extra £100 or so.
BMW 1 Series - Honestjohn
There isn't anywhere to put a spare wheel in a One Series. The diff and the battery take up the space where a wheel well would normally be sunk. But there would be room to carry a full size spare instead of luggage, so long as it was properly bolted down.

HJ
BMW 1 Series - PR {P}
HJ, I think you've made a slight mistake with the price of the 120d Sport (unless it is a £10,700 bargain!!)
BMW 1 Series - Honestjohn
Thanks. Fixed it.

HJ
BMW 1 Series - Quinny100
I read a post on another forum I frequent earlier this week from a bloke with a Mazda RX-8 - another new vehicle that is not supplied with a spare wheel but rather a can of tyre foam.

A large bolt had gone through the tyre - far too big to be sealed, so being a member of the AA he called them and advised there was no spare. After 3 hours the AA turned up, patrolman looked for the spare which wasn't there! The patrol said he'd have to recover the car, so he asked to be taken home, 15 miles away as he had paid for Relay Plus cover. The AA refused to tow him more than 10 miles, because "the owner had not taken steps to ensure a spare was present", the call centre confirmed this to be their policy regardless of whether the car was supplied with a spare or not. In the end the bloke concerned had to call Mazda's own breakdown service and get them to tow the car back to his house.
BMW 1 Series - Avant
With no disrespect to you, HJ, but perhaps a bit to BMW, your explanation implies that rear-wheel drive and a spare wheel are incompatible in a small car (the diff is in the way).

Before Issigonis, most cars were RWD, even small ones. They all had spare wheels, and there was still room for luggage.

I really am not tempted by the 1-series. There seems to be a considerable loss of practicality in several areas in exchange for this rather nebulous concept of 'driveability' about which road testers spill a great deal of ink but which most of us notice only occasionally in daily driving.

An A3 will do at least 95% of the job, and in any case even the testers agree that the Focus, despite being FWD, is as good to drive as anything in this class.
BMW 1 Series - Honestjohn
Avant, instead of writing about \"nebulous\" concepts at midnight I suggest you get hold of a One Series and drive it. The Focus is good. But I have never seen any road tester worth reading suggest that it is as good to drive as a One Series. More practical, yes. As good to drive, no. BMW has a \'unique selling proposition\' for the One Series and the car lives up to it.

HJ
BMW 1 Series - Hull4000
The 1 series - follows the rest of its siblings - may drive well but do they look ugly or what? The last generation of BMWs were good looking cars so why did they get Boris Karloff's progeny to design the new one?
BMW 1 Series - CJay{P}
Ugly or not, people the world over seems to want one.
There is an article in one of the newspapers (telegraph I think): aparently BMW overtook Mercedes for the first time in history in terms of number of cars sold.
BMW 1 Series - Pezzer
Must agree I thought it was 'nebulous' until I drove some. I have tested some 3 series and ultimately the 1 series. It was quite an experience actually going round a corner rather than scuffing across it.
Along with the impressive diesel engine it was one of the factors which persuaded me into ordering one.
BMW 1 Series - Buster Cambelt
We have tried a 120D this weekend. It is very ugly but you don't see that from the driver's seat. It is OK to drive but not the quantum leap that the hype would have you believe. That said, it is hugely better that an A3, especially the Sportback - but what isn't?

But it's not for us, the driving position is skewed (like the 3 series) and quite cramped. The clincher is that it is not built like a £22k car and that's about what it costs when you add it all up.
BMW 1 Series - SjB {P}
It is very ugly but you don't see that from the driver's seat.

Reminds me of what a friend said when he took a Ford Scorpio as a company car. A few weeks later he then admitted that he'd stopped looking at the car's reflection in shop windows that he'd done previously throughout his driving life!
BMW 1 Series - Turbodog
>>That said, it is hugely better that
an A3, especially the Sportback - but what isn't?



What makes you say that? I quite fancy a Sportback, esp with DSG

BMW 1 Series - Hull4000
If you want to be a prestige brand, the car has to be good to drive, but it has also to look good and have an element of desirabilty. If it is ugly, and more common on the streets than a Ford Mondeo, it has to lose some cachet. BMW clearly did very well with the last generation of 3 and 5 series but I don't believe that the new 1, 3 or 5 series match the new Mercs and Audis either aesthetically, or for prestige. All subjective I know but when I was waiting behind a 1 series last week I thought it was the ugliest car I've seen since the hideous Fiat Multipla. Doesn't it look as if someone glued together the from and back halves of different cars?
BMW 1 Series - daveyjp
I have been looking at both of these this weekend as a possible replacement for the A2 - neither driven yet. In looks the A3 wins it for me. The DSG option is also swinging me towards the Audi. 6 speed manuals are OK, but even with block changes I seem to be endlessly changing gear (had a six speed TT for a day and ended up with an aching left leg!).

The lack of a spare coupled with the need for a specialist tyre also worries me. The last thing I need on one of my trips to the wilds of north west Scotland is a puncture followed by a search for a potentially hard to source tyre.
BMW 1 Series - Buster Cambelt
I have had an FSI Sportback as a loan car for 2 weeks. I really don't like it at all. It is very noisy, cramped, has poor seats and the dash is, in my opinion, horrible - a huge lump of matt black plastic with some stick on silver circles. Like the Golf it is pretty uninspiring to drive, and, like the BMW, it is really ugly. The 6 speed box is a strange choice too, at 1000 km it can barely pull 5th on a moderate incline let alone 6th.

I think a 1.8T petrol A4 Avant is a far better proposition if you can find one of the last "pretty" ones before the uglification of Audi continues.
BMW 1 Series - daveyjp
Avant is no good for me as it won't fit on my drive! A3/1 series is the limit.