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My much loved ZT was sold today. Now my hand has been forced and I have to find a replacement. Went back to see a 54 plate Vectra with colour sat nav and leather £12995. Walked in...."how much off for no part ex"....."none" was the reply. Well I walked out saying I hope they enjoyed polishing it on the forecourt. Do dealers really think they can get away with such hard nosed business. My money is being taken elsewhere unless he knocks £500 off. Might consider a Mazda 6,, but then again.....what??
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Yeah but No But...Did you actually offer him £12445 cash for a "spit in the hand deal on the spot"
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Sales manager was 'at lunch'. Gave them my phone number telling them the cash is in the bank waiting. I'll leave the ball in their court.
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Another ZT no question. You'll get an amazing discount, buy a warranty for 4 or 500 quid and go back to enjoying your driving.
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Come on - at 159mph your colleague has been nicked for - its got to be a 3.2 vectra!
Could you really step from the company car into anything slower?
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So the ZT's gone MLC?
I saw an ST220 on Autotrader for 10 grand the other day and only 20k miles. I don't know if that's too many but I've lost the ad.
I'll have another look.
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Well not surprising since the dealer makes money on the P/X, the car he sells you AND on the finance package too. With you offering no P/X and not taking hsi finance - where IS the incentive for him to sell you the car?
Plus if you really give him 'cash' then he will have to have two employees count it (to verify it is all there) then arrange for it to be banked securely and then the bank may levy a charge for depositing such a large amount of money...surprising I know but hey it's a crazy world we live in.
I personally wouldn't touch a Vectra - pick the Mondeo every time because IMHO it's sharper, tastier and crisper all round - I mean come on! Have you seen those wierd box sqaure headlights on the Vectra?!
I mean do you *really* want the same car at home as the one you (might) drive @ work? :)
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I didn't mean it literally. It would have been a bankers draft or something similar. The car is stuffed full of expensive options which appeals somewhat. I wouldn't have a 3.2, it's the only car I've driven where you can actually see the fuel needle go down. Still fancy a ST Tdci, but I can't afford it now. The ST220 appeals, but I'd have to check running costs. I've seen 54 reg Vectra sri 150 diesels with sat nav for £12200, but am dithering as usual.
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Midlife, what did you get for the MG ZT? Decent money, or not?
HJ
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Mondeo ST220. Brilliant performance and great to drive.
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Err...not. At least not in my view. I sold it for £7500, but wanted a quick sale. A lot of car for the money. I've lost £6500 in two and a bit years. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but a lot of wonga for an underpaid sort like me. I was offered that as a p/x price before the crash. Few would take it in p/x at the moment. Those that would were offering £5-5500. I think they were taking the proverbial.
While you're viewing HJ. Does the vectra 2.2 sri, 54 plate, with leather, colour sat nav, electric sunroof, 19" alloys and 10000m at £12995 seem a fair price.
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I would have given you 8 grand for it MLC....and I'm poor!
Not that I want to make you feel worse!
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Listen, my ribs are brakeing I'm laughing so much!!! :-)
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Do me a favour though, when you sell your next car, give me first refusal!
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MLC, if my memory serves you were thinking of an estate, weren't you? Could be time to think about a B*W ... :-0
The 320d was upped to 150 bhp in 2001, similar output to the Mondeo STDCi, but this RWD car will probably have even the Mondeo beaten for handling. One of the earliest 150 bhp versions might have depreciated enough to be more affordable than the more recent Mondeo engine.
If it isn't affordable, or you don't want *that* badge, then I think your idea of the Mazda6 is a good one - very sleek looking as an estate. Only thing is that if you're after better economy, the diesel versions don't seem to be the most economical or refined on the market. The diesel Accord will probably be too expensive at this stage, but obviously their petrol engines are very well regarded. The estate is rather boxy looking though, and attractive though the Accord is as a saloon, in estate form a Volvo is sexier - a reflection of how far they've come!
You could try an Audi Avant quattro, although I wouldn't be convinced of the reliability. I'd be more inclined to go for a Volvo with the D5 engine, but it won't go round corners in quite the way the 320 or the Mondeo would.
Oh, and I wouldn't totally rule out a ZT-T!
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Vroom, vroom - mmm, doughnuts ...
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Midlife, avoid the bling 19" alloys. My test Vectra was on them. They just looks stupid, transmitted every crack in the road to the car, and did no favours to the handling either. Road test of the Vectra 1.9 150bhp diesel at: www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=151
HJ
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Had a phone call from the dealer yesterday, asking me to pop in. Duly arrived and I've got the vectra for £12500 and six months tax. He buckled a little bit earlier than expected. The vectra has just about every available option on it, althougth as previously discussed, I'll probably be putting the 19" alloys on e-bay.
I'm actually starting to get a bit depressed at the thought of losing the ZT. I wonder if I've been a little hasty, the doom laden forecasts don't seem to be holding.
The only other problem is that the wife is turning her nose up at the thought of telling people we have a vectra!!!
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Buy some Opel or Chevrolet badges for the Vectra.
HJ
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Buy some Opel or Chevrolet badges for the Vectra. HJ
Opel, maybe, reckon GM should have rebranded Vauxhall as Opel in the UK in the early 80's when both brands were marketed here.
However never has a brand's credentials been so devastated as the classic Chevrolet brand has been by the Daewoo exercise.
Regards.
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Vauxhalls and Daewoos were already badged Chevrolet in other parts of the World. The Nubira has been the Chevrolet Optra in Tailand since 2003. The Zafira is a Chevrolet there, not a Vauxhall or even an Opel.
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Hi HJ,
I know Vauhall's and Opel's have been badged as Chevrolet (and also Holden) in other parts of the world however Daewoo's branded as Chevrolet is a relatively recent thing and so, so, so damaging to the Chevvy brand due to the relatively poor Deawoo reputation and their lack of the historical engineering integrity which Vauxhall and Opel have to some degree at least.
Regards.
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Buy some Opel or Chevrolet badges for the Vectra.
Stick with the Griffen badges, and be proud that it's not a blue oval, viking ship, etc ;o)
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Stick with the Griffen badges, and be proud that it's not a blue oval, viking ship, etc ;o)
Racist!
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Always thought the Griffon was a Wyvern?
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Always thought the Viking ship was a Lada!
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Always thought the Viking ship was a Lada!
I was actually refering to R.over
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What was it about the ST220 that put you off and turned you towards the Vectra, out of interest?
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The running costs. It was simply too thirsty. Very nice car though.
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Plus if you really give him 'cash' then he will have to have two employees count it (to verify it is all there) then arrange for it to be banked securely and then the bank may levy a charge for depositing such a large amount of money...surprising I know but hey it's a crazy world we live in.
The dealer could not accept that amount in cash whether he wanted to or not. Anything over 15k euros is suspect moneylaundering.
And I'd be worried that I was going to get a visit from my customers 6'6" mates a little later.
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The dealer can accept that much in cash, and much more. He can accept it but is obliged to report it, or rather the bank is obliged to report it.
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MLC - I wish you luck with your new car...but come ON MAN - it's a Vauxhall?! You should have opted for the Octavia :P
Ah well, atleast if need be you could stick a stripe (or are you guys posh enough to have 'battenburgs'?) and couple of blue lights in it and double it up as a Job Car if needed ;)
Have fun man.
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Im not plain stupid, just a special kind of stoopid.
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I must just be getting old. And if they can take the stick I give them at work, my new one should be able to take my more sedate everyday driving without problems.
At least it's got lots of buttons to press and the lady who sits in the sat nav sounds sexy. (And she doesn't seem to hold the map upside down!!)
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Bizarrely enough out here in Germany it is considered the height of bling to swap your Opel badges on your lowered Omega.....with Vauxhall ones!! And no, I am not kidding, you see loads of them.
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Yup get some Holden badges on it. You can get holden badges that fit perfectly.
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In Japan, Subaru,part of the mighty GM, badge the Zafira 'Subaru Traviq'and i think they also badge some Subarus for the US with Saab badges.I guess the marketing dept thinks it works on the punters.
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