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Channel 5 tonight, 10.55. A documentary on The Hells Angels, should be entertaining.
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Please, I can never keep up with movements in the English language. What are Chavs and what are Bloggers?
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Please, I can never keep up with movements in the English language. What are Chavs ?
Come to newcastle, it should take you all of half an hour to work that one out.
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What are Chavs ?
As I've posted here before: www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-cha2.htm
Should raise a smile...
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What are Chavs. Depends who you ask and when I think. One definition I thought applied to Chatham but look at:
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chav
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
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Please, I can never keep up with movements in the English language. What are Chavs and what are Bloggers?
Your honour, they are all much the same thing as "The Beatles", which we discussed last week ... ;-)
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Dear Sir/Madam
As a politically correct do-gooding middle-class person with a social conscience I strongly object to the derogatory term 'chav' being used to describe yobbos, louts, oiks and other scum.
Yours sincerely, Mr. O. Lear-Vanthow,
(Cheers, SS)
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According to one newspaper, Chavs are people with no manners, morals or taste. An ever-expanding sector of our populace I would say.
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Blogging is defined here tinyurl.com/7wl8c
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Vastly superior to common chavs are the 81's.
There is much urban myth and much history associated with the Angels, all well documented.
pdr.autono.net/SonnyBarger.html
The recently deceased Hunter Thompson tried to sensationalise the Angels, the RICO actions in the US failed as the authorities tried to frame them for racketeering. They have been accused of all kinds of stuff, largely falsely.
The best and most accurate documentary on the Angels is a History Channel VHS, a copy of which I have, and which contains lengthy interviews with Sonny Barger.
Bikers, support your local 81.
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So what this has got to is that Hells Angels are not Chavs at all.
HJ
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So what this has got to is that Hells Angels are not Chavs at all.
And I think we probably all knew that, didn't we?
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The program was very one sided and disappointing.
I read Sonny Barger's biography and he has some surprising views on bikes, being very complimentary about Japanese bikes in general and Hondas in particular.
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I lived just up the street from a Hells Angels club house in Reading,And I have to say we never got any trouble, there was very little crime in the area and the only time you ever heard them was on November 5th when they had one of the best firework displays you could ever want to watch (even though it was at 1am). They look after themselves and don't cause any trouble unless you give it to them, Far better as neighbours then alot I can think of. Saw one of thier funerals once, a few hundred bikes parked everywhere.
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"I lived just up the street from a Hells Angels club house in Reading,And I have to say we never got any trouble"
I had friends who lived near to the chapter who bought a house in Windsor, and there was a shed load of trouble there right up till the time an axe fight hit the streets outside, people died and people went to jail.
Variable bunch the angels, some as hard as nuts (like the windsor chapter) some as soft as pussies (like the ones me and my drunken mates threw into a Amsterdam canal)
On the whole, they may carry what look like real colours on the back, but very few of them are real "angels"
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>>and there was a shed load of trouble there right up till the time
I'm guessing that was about the time that the Wessex and the All England were throwing shotguns at each other in the New Forest ?
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"I'm guessing that was about the time that the Wessex and the All England were throwing shotguns at each other in the New Forest"
Yes - connected I think.
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>>Yes - connected I think.
I used to hang around with a couple of the Wessex guys at the time. It was always a bit nerve wracking like the time in the Windsor Castle pub in Maidenhead when about 15 All England walked in and I was sat there with three Wessex !
I find it amazing that there are people my age who are still involved in all that rubbish. Goodness knows I outgrew it a long time ago.
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>>I lived just up the street from a Hells Angels club house in Reading
I assume you mean in London St ? I used to live just up the road from there as well. At least I think its London St - it goes up from the Duke St. bridge towards the Basingstoke Road.
They were a friendly crowd.
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When I lived in S. Florida for a while back in the 80's the Angels were a welcome presence especially with the older retired people.
They kept the drugs and low-lifes off the streets when the pice couldn't and were always there to lend a helping hand. Wild men indeed but with good hearts.
Ride on, Sonny.
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Not quite, It is on St Peters Road, Just off of the Wokingham Road, Cant miss it, Two houses made into one with steel doors and CCTV.
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Vastly superior to common chavs are the 81's. There is much urban myth and much history associated with the Angels, all well documented. pdr.autono.net/SonnyBarger.html The recently deceased Hunter Thompson tried to sensationalise the Angels, the RICO actions in the US failed as the authorities tried to frame them for racketeering. They have been accused of all kinds of stuff, largely falsely. The best and most accurate documentary on the Angels is a History Channel VHS, a copy of which I have, and which contains lengthy interviews with Sonny Barger. Bikers, support your local 81.
About a year or so ago one of the UK terrestrial TV channels showed a very good documentary on the Angels. They were seen to go out of their way to create the image of being rough diamonds, and good natured advocates of freedom, the open road and so on. Tough nuts with a healthy disdain for authority and good at heart. But numerous incidents including gang warfare and deaths in Montreal about 10 years ago, and drug wars in Scandinavia suggest that they are deeply into gun running and drug dealing. The case was made - convincingly I thought - for them being a rather unpleasant bunch despite the effective PR.
What was the conclusion of the documentary?
Leif
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>>>>>What was the conclusion of the documentary?
To let Sonny put his views. His books are worth reading if it's a subject which interests you enough.
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