Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Imagos
Looking forward to the race Sunday, interesting to note though this will be last race with a sunday qualifying session. It's reverting back to single lap saturday from Nurbergring onwards.

Btw, anyone know why Monaco is the only race of the season were nothing happens on a Friday? (free practise was yesterday)
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Robin Reliant
Without BAR the Spanish GP was as tedious as it gets, and I fear Sunday may be the same. Eighteen cars just isn't enough, particularly when the two missing drivers are competitive and in good cars.

With the lack of overtaking opportunities at Monaco, there should be a few queues forming when they keep coming up behind Eddie Stobbart's (sorry, Jordan's) two lumbering vehicles.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Stargazer {P}
Tom,

Despite the name of the team, Eddie Jordan no longer owns Jordan F1. A Russian tycoon now owns the F1 Team but a consortium headed by Eddie Irvine (ex Ferrari driver) is considering buying into Jordan.

StarGazer
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Miller
ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...........

Formula one died a death back in around 2000 IIRC.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Honestjohn
Spotted Eddie Irvine a couple of times wandering around the F1 paddock at the Spanish GP. Wondered what he was doing there.

HJ
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Imagos
So am i correct in saying that Eddie Jordan has nothing to do with the team that bears his name? and he isn't even at Monaco??
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - mfarrow
Imagos,

Yes.
He is.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Altea Ego
Spotted Eddie Irvine a couple of times wandering around the F1
paddock at the Spanish GP. Wondered what he was doing there.



Topping up his Hareem.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - martint123
Bothe the Eddies were there.

Irvine being talked about as a team owner/principle/figurehead.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Robin Reliant
Does anybody know the likely sentence for sending a death threat to the TV race director?

Surely if a jury saw the coverage of the last lap, they would never convict?
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Altea Ego
F1 is heading for the best season for ages and TV directors are screwing it. I will be foreman on that jury - you are safe.

Cant blame ITV this time they dumped the commercials early specially for the finish.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - martint123
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Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Altea Ego
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Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Happy Blue!
At last, a decent watchable GP today and some interesting overtaking manouevers. Hooray!

Its only taken about ten years. Forget grooved tyres - go to narrower tyres, narrower cars, steel brakes discs = more overtaking.

I always thought that in the dry no grooves in the tread was immaterial to handling and grip - so why did Renault do so poorly today?
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Happy Blue!
BTW - FIA website survey still busy at 17:50.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Altea Ego
"always thought that in the dry no grooves in the tread was immaterial to handling and grip - so why did Renault do so poorly today"

Well if they had taken a slick tyre and cut grooves in it (as the first ones were when grooves were introduced) then were donw the grooves and yes you do have a quick slick.

However the tyres are now designed for grooves, so heat (either too much or not enough) and hence grip becomes a problem when the grooves are gone
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Honestjohn
That's not the ITV coverage. It's the race coverage. If the director is stupid enough to follow the lead cars when there is a race going on behind them then there is nothing ITV can do about it.

HJ
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - brg190 pete
Fantastic race - who'd have thought it, overtaking at Monaco?

I should make it clear that I have always supported 'anyone but Michael', so may be a little prejudiced.

But, before the race, I was thinking - give Michael a break, give him a car that can compete with McLaren and Renault so he can race at the front. But now my view of him as an arrogant pink fluffy dice has been reinforced by his overtake on Rubens at the chicane on the last lap (not picked up by the TV, as they were following Kimi - see above).

Apparently, he said afterwards that it was only fair to overtake, as this was 'just racing'. The sheer hypocrisy of that comment makes me sick!

In past seasons, there have been clear rules within Ferrari along the lines of no overtaking between team-mates after the last pit-stop (rules I have never agreed with, by the way - Frank Williams, by contrast, expects his drivers to race each other!)

But, when that rule does not work to Michael's advantage, he conveniently ignores it.

I accept that, until this year, Michael was probably the best driver and, of course, he is still very good, just being let down by his tyres.

But he has also always had the unfair advantage of having a team-mate who would always yield to him.

If he doesn't get any more points at all this season, I would be happy (nothing to do with him being German, of course!)
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Robin Reliant
I would assume that the pit crews are watching the same pictures on their monitors that we get on TV, as they sometimes look visibly annoyed when they themselves are being shown on screen and also unable to see what is going on out on the track.

Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Chad.R
I would assume that the pit crews are watching the same
pictures on their monitors that we get on TV, as they
sometimes look visibly annoyed when they themselves are being shown on
screen and also unable to see what is going on out
on the track.


AFAIK everybody sees the same pictures....
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Imagos
>>Btw, anyone know why Monaco is the only race of the season were nothing happens on a Friday? (free practise was yesterday)>>
>>

Anyone know why?
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - PR {P}
Agreed about ITV not being able to do anything about the last lap coverage, BUT, after the race they didn't even show a replay of it (MS overtaking RB), but instead we had to listen to inane chat and see ITV plugging their forthcoming sports coverage ie Champions league.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - mfarrow
BUT, after the race they didn't even show
a replay of it (MS overtaking RB)


OK, let's set the record straight:

ITV can only show what they and we have all seen.
ITV can only repeat what they and we have all seen.

Tom, Good theory, but I'm sure that removing the armco, tyre walls, and replacing the street furnature and road markings would take a lot longer than would be considered feasible.

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Mike Farrow
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - PR {P}
If thats the case how could they show it in their late night highlights program? And how could they show the last 3 laps in San Marino that their viewers had missed, but those in other countries hadn't, those 3 laps weren't repeated in other countries
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - mfarrow
If thats the case how could they show it in their
late night highlights program?


Pass. Maybe the director showed it during the ads at the end, or (more likely as it wasn't in the after race analysis) ITV got hold of the footage afterwards.
And how could they show the last
3 laps in San Marino that their viewers had missed


As my previous post. They saw it and recorded it and played it.

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Mike Farrow
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - mfarrow
Ah, OK, now I get it. What I meant in my first post was ITV can only show and repeat what they see.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Cardew
Ah, OK, now I get it. What I meant in
my first post was ITV can only show and repeat what
they see.


Thats not my understanding of TV coverage.

The output of every camera, regardless of where it is pointing, is recorded.

The TV director chooses the live coverage as he sees fit. He can show, at any point during the race, a recording of an incident he feels important. That is why we often see(retrospectively) a crash that wasn't shown during live coverage.

Individual TV companies go to commercial breaks as they see fit; but coverage of the race continues.

After the race a TV company can select the recorded tape from any of the cameras.
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Robin Reliant
>>Btw, anyone know why Monaco is the only race of the
season were nothing happens on a Friday? (free practise was yesterday)>>
>>
Anyone know why?


Possibly because Monaco is a street circuit and they can't close the roads for four days?
Monaco F1 Grand Prix thread. - Round The Bend
I was lucky enough to get to the Monaco GP a some years back. Seem to recall coming down the circuit on a bus from the station on the Friday evening so was open to traffic then! Everything closed from the Saturday morning with countless races and practice sessions right through until after the GP itself.
Great experience!