The section of the M25 between junctions 12 and 13 south west of London is closed in both directions.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4197500.stm
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And who is working down the M3 today and needs to go home that way?
Deep joy
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I like the quote from Fire Officer Neil Owen, who told BBC News: "Looking at the lorry, it's actually sort of totally written-off".
It looked sort of totally destroyed to me!
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Isn't about time we excluded lorries from the M25 - and other motorways - between 6am and 8pm?(tic)
Trying to get home from Nottingham yesterday - Monday - the airwaves were full of stories about lorries crashing and inconveniencing motorists. The M25 was shut, the M40 was shut, there had been an accident on the M4 and it always seems to be lorries involved.
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No 'crime scene' to investigate and plenty of escape routes in this area. They seem to have got everything moving again as soon as they reasonably could have. However, the idea of banning trucks from the M25 is a bit like banning food. Would have a similar effect.
HJ
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why does plod have to shut motorways for hours, bringing half the uk to a halt, so he can rub his chin and feel important for a while?
GET THE ROAD MOVING AGAIN!!!
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Not their fault - there was a hideous mess to clear up - not, I suspect, the lorry driver's. If the press want to be useful, they should name and shame the idiot who allowed the lorry to go out with an unsafe cargo.
Some of the truckers on the forum may be able to enlighten us - would I be right in thinking that there are more accidents caused be either unstable loads or badly-maintained lorries than by bad drivers?
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>>If the press want to be useful, they should name and shame the idiot who allowed the lorry to go out with an unsafe cargo.
In my day it was the lorry driver who was responsible to ensure his load was safe and secure,not pass the buck onto someone else.If you lost a load it was you the driver who got a good kick up the backside and probably lost your job. But then there was pride in the job.
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rustbucket (the original)
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Judging on what the cargo was that this lorry was carrying, hydrogen peroxide, I think they probably got this one right. Going on the properties of such a chemical, see the link below, I think I would rather take the long way round while it was likely to go bang, certainly wouldn't be advisable to have a shower in the stuff!
tinyurl.com/ex3bu
Cockle
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You obviously didnt see this one. Plod did a really great job on this one, getting the road opened again in 3.5 hours was good going. My next door neighbour was in the Q, and said due to the heat plod drove up and down the q's handing out water.
Didnt the n***s use hydrogen peroxide in their rocket fuel?
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Aeroplane blondes come to mind.
HJ
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No but I think the Russians did in their submarines. Wasn't that why the Kursk sank?
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Very very volatile stuff - ME163 Komet fuel.
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I was interested to see that they managed to clear the M25 in 3.5 hours despite the fact that the road surface must have been seriously damaged by the fire.Resurfacing is one of the usual reasons given for 24 hour closure
Although the driver managed to get to the hard shoulder before the fire got hold it must have been a ferocious blaze and debris was all over the eight lanes from what I saw on the BBC South Today programme last night.
Does anybody know if they managed to resurface all the eight affected lanes in that time? If so , thats pretty good going.
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BTW - I was surprised also to see HJ on the South Today programme ( minus trilby) talking on another unrelated issue about lots of private car vendors parking alongside busy main roads and upsetting locals.
Anybody else in the South spot him?
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BTW - I was surprised also to see HJ on the South Today programme ( minus trilby) talking on another unrelated issue about lots of private car vendors parking alongside busy main roads and upsetting locals. Anybody else in the South spot him?
Article about selling cars in Reading? I was in the kitchen and thought "I recognise that voice!"
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I was interested to see that they managed to clear the M25 in 3.5 hours despite the fact that the road surface must have been seriously damaged by the fire.Resurfacing is one of the usual reasons given for 24 hour closure Although the driver managed to get to the hard shoulder before the fire got hold it must have been a ferocious blaze and debris was all over the eight lanes from what I saw on the BBC South Today programme last night. Does anybody know if they managed to resurface all the eight affected lanes in that time? If so , thats pretty good going.
Are you sure it was ALL re-opened in 3.5 hours? According to LBC 97.3 and 1152 AM, two lanes were still out at 9pm and they were saying that they were not expected to re-open fully until 5am today. As HJ indicates everyone was using the A244 over Walton Bridge.
I wonder how many HGV accidents are caused by driver fatigue? A large proportion seem to occur either in the early hours of the morning or around 3 o'clock in the afternoon - peak times for tiredness.
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One lane closed at 7pm past night
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I wonder how many HGV accidents are caused by driver fatigue? A large proportion seem to occur either in the early hours of the morning or around 3 o'clock in the afternoon - peak times for tiredness.
This one was at 12.30PM.
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>> I wonder how many HGV accidents are caused by driver fatigue? >> A large proportion seem to occur either in the early hours >> of the morning or around 3 o'clock in the afternoon - >> peak times for tiredness. >> This one was at 12.30PM.
Yes. The point I was making was a general one.
The accident yesterday may have nothing to do with driver fatigue.
The point I made is still valid (IMHO)
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What was the problem on the West Yorks M62 by Ferrybridge that shut it for most of the weekend?
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Apparently some lads had been racing in a Scooby and crashed.
Apparently.
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Adam
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