The Top Gear Thread - Volume 23 - Temp name4

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{Conversation follows on from previous thread - DD}
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it's a strange one top gear,

i turn it on sit down and watch it and enjoy it,

but it seems to be the same thing every week,

there must be a huge waiting list of public school boys eagerly e-mailing off their c.v's every week to the TG office in the hope of an interview.

it just comes across as three well of blokes amusing themselves with someone elses money. that said i did enjoy it the other day.

also have you noticed how the audience is full of chinless wonders. i would guarentte the visitor car park is full of bmw320's and model c vectra's. has anyone been to watch the show? what were your experiences ?
TG 21/05/06 - local yokel
They always make sure there's some presentable totty in the audience though - I think Clarkson and Hammond do have a bit of a "following", despite being married.
TG 28/05/06 - mare
Still chuckling about the Anna Hathaway Mercedes S Class

Watch out if you ever buy an ex Laura Ashley car!
TG 28/05/06 - Stuartli
...and JC saying his missus had gone home in a chauffeur driven car from Beckingham Palace and only noticed he wasn't there when she turned to speak to him...
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TG 28/05/06 - Dynamic Dave
You'd have thought JC's missus would have noticed the extra room, with JC's ego missing from the car ;o)
TG 28/05/06 - Sprice
It was funny, but did they have to ruin that nice Merc (throwing away those seats!) when they could have achieved the same thing with an old Granada? There was some nice looking women in the audience lastnight!
TG 28/05/06 - Vin {P}
If you apply for tickets, there is a condition attached that there must be at least as many women in your party as men, I believe.

V
TG 28/05/06 - Stuartli
>>there is a condition attached>>

Quite correct, but there's a long wait to actually be able to see one of the recordings. Full details at:

www.applausestore.com/Site/shows/show/ShowsMain.ph...1
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TG 28/05/06 - Pugugly {P}
They did a good job of satirising themselves last night. All that talk of sub waistline body parts and activities; anyone notice how James May has now seemignly got the same hair stylist as the dog ? Glad I recorded it so I could FF through the tiresome bits.
TG 28/05/06 - Tornadorot
If you apply for tickets, there is a condition attached that
there must be at least as many women in your party
as men, I believe.


Ah, now that explains where all the women come from :-)
TG 28/05/06 - quizman
I think that it was the worst Topgear I have ever seen. Like a previous poster says, the only good bit were the birds behind JC
TG 28/05/06 - Waino
I saw Top Gear turn into a comedy programme with a motoring theme a few series ago when Richard Hammond kept a straight face and banged on about the merits of a Rover P5C as a business vehicle. I believe it was all based on some sort of tax advantage.

My friend and neighbour lovingly maintains his P5C (a beautiful beast) and wins prizes at rallies - but it also does about 15mpg and he spends most of the winter underneath it. When it comes to a practical, reliable vehicle for work, he has a Honda Accord diesel.
TG 28/05/06 - colinh
"Glad I recorded it so I could FF through the tiresome bits." - so that's the titles and end-credits left.
TG 28/05/06 - Sofa Spud
Thought I'd kick off by laying into tonight's episode. Motoring comedy is possibly a new genre. Sadly, if you want serious technical content I think Scrapheap Challenge, Pimp my Ride or Car Sharks provide more than Top Gear.

Hammond hammered a Porsche Cayenne Turbo S down a rally track in an attempt to beat a parachutist in a flying squirrel suit! Apart from saying that he'd have to maintain an average of 60 mph to do this it wasn't clear whether the same stunt wouldn't have been possible in a Freelander or even a 1960's rally prepared Mini Cooper! Also revealed was the embarrassing fact that the Cayenne's tyres had appalling grip off-road and proper off-road tyres are not even available for it!

Clarkson fitted out an old Mercedes S Class with concrete and olde-worlde cottage furniture for his minions to fool around in.
What next? Bolting a car to the road to show us that doing this renders it immobile?

When JC did his drive in the Bugatti Veyron some months ago the car was described as the motoring 'Concorde' inasmuch as it has set a performance and technical benchmark that nobody is likely to try and beat. I think that the same could be said of that Veyron episode of Top Gear. Having been searching for motoring superlatives they sampled the petrolheads' superlative of superlatives, since which everything is an anti-climax so they might as well just fill an old Merc with concrete!

But Top Gear did, credit due where credit's due, suggest that Koenigsegg add a rear wing to their supercar to stop the Stig from lossing control of it AND they did so AND it worked.
TG 28/05/06 - akr
I watch Top Gear and 5th Gear and enjoy them both to a certain extent although I feel the latter is the more relevant. TG, however, is getting a bit monotonous e.g. it always starts with one of them blasting around in a fast car followed by a lap by Stig. All very interesting I'm sure but very samey and I haven't spotted a single one yet I can afford. Nevertheless it is amusing at times. 5G is definitely more informative but there are elements of TG in that too e.g. Tiff blasting around in Ferraris and the attempt to kill the old Merc E Class was a rip off of the Toyota pick up on TG.
I suppose the moral is just to enjoy them as entertainment. If I want informing I watch the car programmes on German satelite as they are like TG of old i.e. everyday car reviews. Admittedly I'm fortunate enough to be able to speak German and have German satelite TV. Otherwise you're a bit stuffed, in which case it's back to TG and 5G.
TG 28/05/06 - Stuartli
suggest that Koenigsegg add a rear wing to their supercar to stop the Stig from lossing control of it AND they did so AND it worked.>>


But hardly ground breaking...:-)
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Sundays TopGear Football - redviper
Hi - if this has already been posted - apologies but i could not find it.


The bit at the end with the car football great stuff but as the cars where bumping each other - non of the airbags went off.
is it beacasue the bumps wernt sufficant or did they take the fuses out to disarm the system or do it some other way.

Just a interesting thought while i was supposed to be working today and wondered what the BR's thought :-)

Ste
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1983 (A) Vauxhall Astra 1.3L
1993 (K) Vauxhall Cavalier 2.0i GLS
1999 (T) Renault Laguna 1.6
Sundays TopGear Football - Pugugly {P}
Probably disarmed along with some neural pathways.
Sundays TopGear Football - Lud
I'm sorry you reminded me of that. I quite liked one or two of the other items.
Sundays TopGear Football - Dave E
Pretty crumby editing as well on the car footy, wet, dry, wet, dry. Not one of the best shows.
Sundays TopGear Football - redviper
"Pretty crumby editing as well on the car footy, wet, dry, wet, dry. Not one of the best shows."

Yes! I thought that as well - When RH said rain made things harder (or whatever he said) the track was as dry as anything

TBH I Like Top Gear but when S.I.A.R.P.G I go and find somthing else to do as i am finding that bit more and more boring


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1983 (A) Vauxhall Astra 1.3L
1993 (K) Vauxhall Cavalier 2.0i GLS
1999 (T) Renault Laguna 1.6
Sundays TopGear Football - Roberson
non of
the airbags went off.
is it beacasue the bumps wernt sufficant or did they take
the fuses out to disarm the system or do it some
other way.


I wondered about this too. I assumed they just either took the fuse out or disabled the sensors which would otherwise set them off. Maybe there is a correct procedure where you can turn them off, but only the manufacturers know how?

Either way, I always wonder what happens to them. Surely the BBC didn't buy them outright?
Sundays TopGear Football - Lud
They ought to do it in real cars with real airbags. It wd last 2.3 minutes, and wd be such a pleasure to see the guys struggling out of the jalopies with traumatised eardrums and stogies smashed up their hooters.
TG 4th June - Round The Bend
Not so many complaints this week. Have you all switched off or were you happy with the programme?

I thought the balance was much better this week. The Jackie Stewart speed driving was interesting and Gambon well worth another appearance. The car football could have been replaced with something more original but it looked fun.

I would still like a slot looking at purchasing interesting second hand cars. The sort of thing that Quentin used to do so well.
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IanS
TG 4th June - Pugugly {P}
Gambon undermined JC brilliantly.
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Altea Ego
TV presenter and motoring correspondent Jeremy Clarkson has got into trouble for suggesting that bus drivers that don't give way to passing cars should be shot. The Transport and General Workers Union has suggested he try driving a bus for a while. We say this isn't enough. Get him to front a BBC series where he has to do all the stressful, glamour-less jobs related to transport: pizza delivery, traffic warden, taxi driver...
If you have any some suggestions let us know in the CCD forum.

Have a great weekend.

Jeremy Bennett
CompanyCarDriver editor


So folks, Big C if you are reading. How about it, how about some slots for Top Gear with JC doing the real grotty driving jobs that shed loads of people have to do?

What other grotty driving jobs could he experience?



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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Pugugly {P}
Speed Camera van driver....
JC - Different Driving Experiences - El Hacko
JC should try being a deckhand on a submarine, suggests a lady I know (and she doesn't normally hate people)
JC - Different Driving Experiences - No FM2R
"Big C" ??

Oh please.
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Altea Ego
;) - cant wind you up about much Mark, but I know that one hits the spot........
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
JC - Different Driving Experiences - No FM2R
>>but I know that one hits the spot........

Bath stood.
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Honestjohn
That's an excellent idea, TVM. Big C might even go for it. He's always up for good new ideas.

I keep forgetting to take a photo of a Big C in Thailand. (It's a chain of cut-price superstores, like Tesco Lotus, downmarket of Carrefour).

HJ
JC - Different Driving Experiences - No FM2R
>>Big C

I know its a supermarket.

But if you walked up to Clarkson and either addressed him as "Big C" or introduced him as such, then I suspect he would find it ridiculous or perhaps merely sycophantic. I doubt he would feel it a normal or usual form of address.
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Pugugly {P}
There was a question in a local radio quiz recently, "what C do you associate with Jeremy Clarkson ?" The answer was caused some embarrasment on live radio....
JC - Different Driving Experiences - Dynamic Dave
I keep forgetting to take a photo of a Big C in Thailand.


I thought Dalglish saved you the bother HJ?

www.bigc.co.th/th/index.asp

(taken from www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=36938&...e )


Gambon - Star in a reasonably priced car - Armitage Shanks {p}
I am not sure if I heard this correctly and in any event event I am sure it was a throwaway joke. Michael Gambon mentioned in passing that he had been a homosexual (I think); JC asked him why he gave it up and MG replied that it made his eyes water!
Gambon - Star in a reasonably priced car - Pugugly {P}
It was a joke based on an earlier interview when Gambon claimed to be gay in an interview (apparantly he likes to fib in interviews).
TG - Question from a previous episode - mss1tw
Who saw the one where they did the radio show?

"Would the guy in the VW please close the 200yd gap between him and the car in front?"

Achieving what exactly? Muppet.

Good presenter, awful driver (Braking on corners) and motorist (See the difference? Still rubbish at both.) Anyone can go fast on an airfield.
TG - Question from a previous episode - JH
Does braking on corners matter with ABS? I don't do it, I still follow some old fashioned rules but - does it matter?
JH
TG - Question from a previous episode - mss1tw
Does braking on corners matter with ABS? I don't do it,
I still follow some old fashioned rules but - does it
matter?
JH


I don't know for sure but it will still shift weight to the front of the car, fine if you want to get the back end out!
TG - Question from a previous episode - JH
That's all they do! :-)

I wouldn't be so quick to knock JC's driving without first hand experience. Are all of those Stig races a set up? I doubt it.

JH
TG - Question from a previous episode - mss1tw
I wouldn't be so quick to knock JC's driving without first
hand experience.


He got owned at the Nurburgring by the Transit!

True, I couldn't do any better, bur I'm not a 'professional'.
TG - Question from a previous episode - barchettaman
He´s a professional journalist, not a professional racing driver. Last time I looked.
The guy is a legend.
I don´t agree with a lot of the things he says, but at least he´s entertaining and produces a response from his readers/viewers.
TG - Question from a previous episode - Pugugly {P}
The guy is a legend - in his own lunchtime.
TG - back this Sunday. 16/07 - Dynamic Dave
No doubt another reminder will appear nearer the time, but one item that caught my eye for this sunday's episode is the "rep race" to find out which beefed-up saloon is best - the Mondeo ST200, Mazda6 MPS, or the Vectra VXR.

No guessing which one my money is on, but I suspect the Mazda6 will win the prize.

There's also a caravaning item where the 3 of them spend a weekend in Dorset camping. Let's hope it's more interesting than some of their other escapades.
TG - back this Sunday. 16/07 - BobbyG
Watched the re-run on UK Gold (I think) of the three supercars trip down through France to the Milau bridge.
People shouldn't be able to have that much fun and get paid for it a well! So jealous!
TG - back this Sunday. 16/07 - Pugugly {P}
There's also a caravaning item where the 3 of them spend a weekend in Dorset camping

Getting more Enid Blyton than ever. I might walk the dogs on the basis that I need to get out more.
TG - back this Sunday. 16/07 - Lud
'Woof!' said Timmy ...
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Honestjohn
It's back tonight now the football is over. So this is a new thread to discuss it. {Now tagged onto the discussion I already started on Thurday - DD}

HJ
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Thommo
Tonight 8pm, they've got a caravan!

I've got a bottle of Penfolds Bin 707 Cabernet Sauvignon!

Should be a laugh.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - audiaudi
Just marked the programme on Sky - really missed the infighting and snide comments/etc between the presenters.

Especially missed the big, blad guy with the large stomach and even larger head - but I tend to agree with most of his comments :)


The 'hermit' needs to be dropped as he is no good.

The man with the long hair needs to stick up for himeslf more and have a really good argument with JC

All good fun.

BTW, Im a bit worried that one of them is going to get kill or they will kill someone when they do their tests

:(
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
Pah you peasant Thommo

Just finished the last of my 1978 magill estate shiraz., last if the case I got from my tour of the magill estate.
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Sprice
The hermit?

Looking forward to its return, but also enjoyed the football!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
>>Just finished the last of my 1978 magill estate shiraz.>>

Still got a (large) bottle of Margeaux Red circa around early 1990s acquired on a car launch in the Bordeaux area (stayed at the Margeaux Chateaux) - problem is that it's worth more than £200 and I'm a bit reluctant to drink it until we get a really special occasion...:-)
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
>>they've got a caravan!>>

They can still keep coming up with new ideas then...:-)
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Honestjohn
So civilised. None of that fizzy Americal lager the chavs have been conned into necking. I'll be on MontGras Cabernet Sauvignon / Syrah 2005 currently on offer at Waitrose for £5.49. Have to economise.

HJ
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - nortones2
d'Arrenburg Laughing Magpie is all I can muster today! Considerably more expensive than yown. But not as much as the previous neckers...
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - bell boy
whooooo w hoooo im off to warm the valves up on my telefunken 19 inch colour with 6x4 semi eliptical sub woofers,for the highlight of the week ...........hope its justified
washed down with "OLD SPECKLED HEN" bottled circa june 2006
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
whooooo w hoooo im off to warm the valves up
on my telefunken 19 inch colour with


when the picture starts to roll up and down, it needs a sharp tap, about .5G, 4 inches in from the back.
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - mike hannon
What I don't understand is, why all the 'amateur' wine experts now seem to be in the UK and all the plonk drinkers like me live in France (cepage merlot from the south west, excellent and much prized by the expat Brits, 1.25 euros a litre).
Maybe it's because they have to numb their brains at great perceived expense before watching Top Gear?
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Pugugly {P}
1.25 euros a litre).
Cheaper than petrol !
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - 1066
worse one yet..

dreadful
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Pugugly {P}
What the wine or the programme ? I watch t on Sky+ to fast forward throught the tiresome bits.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
I'm still laughing at the last five minutes....:-)
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - mss1tw
That episode was great!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - bell boy
excellant i thought
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - P E
Yeah, it was funny. I enjoyed it.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - David Horn
Practically wet myself laughing. Guest was boring though.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
Ok highly staged but the crash was genuine! Really funny


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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - algy
There is stupidity, there is crass stupidity and then there are Top Gear presenters......
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - blue_haddock
I was amazed that the F1 car only managed 81mph in the hall.

I washed it down with a bottle of Weston Special Reserve Cider.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Honestjohn
Will we hear from Thommo. Or did the Penfolds Bin 707 Cabernet Sauvignon overwhelm everything?

350 million viewrs worldwide, Algy. That's why the BPC doesn't stop it, and why we should all be very thankful. For the time being, anyway.


HJ
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - chairmanmatt
A really good episode. Am glad it's back. Don't have to watch the re-runs on uktv anymore!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - audiaudi
Just watched the show as it was recorded - crash at petrol station real - everything else staged.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
>>Just watched the show as it was recorded>>

You have a DVD recorder then?
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - MichaelR
Absolutely fantastic.

Staged? Probably. Do I care? Does it detract from the show in any way? No.

It is not a magazine programme. It is not about road tests of the latest Golf diesel. They won't tell you in an unbiased way whether you should buy a Ford Ka or a Kia Picanto. If you want that sort of mind numbing mediocrity, watch Cable television, buy What? Car or get down your local dealer and drive the car yourself.

It is, purely and simply, a car based entertainment/comedy show. I laughed more or less from start to finish. I learnt absolutely nothing, but enjoyed every minute of it.

Treat it how it is intended - as light hearted comedy - and you'll enjoy it far more than you would had you expected an education.

Best thing on television. I would pay my license fee JUST for that.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Vincent de Marco
>>It is not a magazine programme. It is not about road tests of the latest Golf diesel. They won't tell you in an
>>unbiased way whether you should buy a Ford Ka or a Kia Picanto. If you want that sort of mind numbing
>>mediocrity, watch Cable television, buy What? Car or get down your local dealer and drive the car yourself.

Couldn?t have said it better myself...
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Imagos
Rarely I laugh out loud quite violently at a tv program but this occured tonight with the caravan scenes.

I 've said this before, TG trades heavily on its on screen chemistry between its presenters and it works too.

Middle aged men playing teenage buffoons is very simular to the chemistry that was Laurel and Hardy.

'one reason people loved us was that they felt so superior to us' Stan once said.

Clarkson, May and Hammond is so so simular.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Citroënian {P}
>>DVD recorder?

Wonder if it was a Sky+/Tivo similar - have done this a few times myself, timeshifting after missing the start so I can watch it from the beginning as it tapes through until the end. Usually use the unknown celeb in Daewoo bit catch up.... :-)

Top drawer show tonight though,really enjoyed it.
Lee -- There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - JH
Now you're talking. I've just come back from Herefordshire with much "clink clinking" from the back.
JH
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Phil J
Everything with the caravan was staged - A 1.5 Diesel?, the crash was staged - you'd need to be seriously stupid (and probably drive on the verge) to hit the bollard. The club was real but the fire was staged - an exercise for the local fire brigade set up with the empty caravan and awning next to theirs, with full permission from the site.

Does it matter? No. It's just entertainment. Less caravan damage than an episode of Brainiac (starring the Hamster).

The thing that made this show rotten was the Mondeo/Mazda/Vauxhall test - totally dull, the boring guest that went on far too long and the complete lack of fresh ideas.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Honestjohn
Wait for the white van triple test coming soon (according to 'The Sunday Times').

HJ
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
The caravan fire was strangely reminiscent of London's Burning carefully staged weekly property fires.

Another point. At one stage there was a truncated shot of May beginning to return to the nearside lane whilst overtaking on the motorway; problem was that the caravan was still alongside the vehicle being overtaken.....
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Round The Bend
Great show.
Now, where can I get one of those rear window message things?
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IanS
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - RB
Last night's show made me laugh out loud, which for something on telly to make me do, is a rare occurrence! OK, so much of the caravan thing was staged, but it kind of got points over that many of us think.

And big up to JC and co for being so non-PC - more please!

Did anyone else notice one of the caravan being overtaken shots, where they had a Maestro towing another caravan overtaking the Kia? (Maybe that was genuine?!)

The Star in the Car - OK, I don't do films, but er, "famous actor?" When I play back the show, I tend to fast forward over this spot.

And finally, how cool to have the Top Gear dog - nice touch.

Yeah, good entertainment - good banter about cars - not to be taken too seriously.

Lucky team!!

New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Armitage Shanks {p}
"When I play back the show, I tend to fast forward over this spot. "

Like I used to with the ghastly Ronnie Corbett doing his sad monologues, sat in that big chair!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Round The Bend
Like I used to with the ghastly Ronnie Corbett doing his sad monologues, sat in that big chair! >>


Eh? I must have been out of the room during that part of TG ............
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
>> Like I used to with the ghastly Ronnie Corbett doing
his sad monologues, sat in that big chair! >>
Eh? I must have been out of the room during that
part of TG ............


Was he doing the "Star in a reasonably priced Noddy Car" segment of the show?

I think we should have "star on a huge "rip your head off and spit you in the grass" motorcycle"

1st Guest on that one anyone?
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - RB
Great show.
Now, where can I get one of those rear window message
things?
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IanS


I think somewhere like Maplin would be the place for those electric sign things
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
>>somewhere like Maplin>>

Indeed it does and probably similar other outlets:

tinyurl.com/ojdkp
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Carrow
I love the show, but can't stand the 'star in a reasonably priced car' feature. So boring!! They do move all the pretty ladies to the front though, good move!!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Round The Bend
Perhaps an alternative to SIASPC segmet could be 2 "stars" racing each other in the sensible car?

Suggestions:
Ant vs Dec (well, they have been on virtually every other show)
Blair vs Cameron
Wogan vs Edmonds
Ferguson vs Wenger
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IanS
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - peterb
"Ferguson vs Wenger"

... zee accident was not my fault... I did not see Sir Alex
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Pugugly {P}
More credible would be Cameron versus himself.

I watched it and enjoyed the bits involving the Mondeo and Mazda vs the Vauxhall. I laughed at the caravan thing. Don't think that the prang was staged. (or it would have been filmed from o/s the car) The caravan turning scene was on a private road somewhere (I would say). The fire was obviously staged and I would say filmed away from the site but cutting to the site as and when required. Kenneth Clark's Civilization it wasn't but it was an entertainig way to pass 35 minutes. (all the other bits were whizzed through.)
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Thommo
The wine was excellent.

The show well all in all not bad. Not your usual Clarkson going COOOOORRRR for twenty minutes in a zillion pound Wonda or whatever.

The Mondeo, Mazda, Vauxhall bit was interesting and showed up the error of putting huge power in to an otherwise pretty much unmodified car.

The star in a reasonably priced car section I like. Although the definition of star seems a bit stretched at times. Top totty in any car would work better for me.

The caravan bit was fun but obviously all staged except the clonk on the bollard, after all when have you ever seen the emergency services turn up so quick?

Overall OK. Chris Rock on the Comedy channel later was better though...
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Dynamic Dave
The Mondeo, Mazda, Vauxhall bit was interesting and showed up the error of putting huge power in to an otherwise pretty much unmodified car.


But did you notice JC wasn't pushing the ST220 nowhere near as much as the VRX.

As per usual, TG was Ford bias.

Yes, the ST220 was 0.8 seconds quicker than the VXR on the power lap, but it begs the question why they didn't show it instead of wasting time with the star in a car feature.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Armitage Shanks {p}
I think we could do without the dog; it makes James May look almost neat and tidy but having to live with the Hamster and work in the TG studio isn't much of a life, for anyone!
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
Because the vectra has the chasis of a Waterbed and smokes a lot.
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - bell boy
and lots of pretty lights that sometimes flash.............................a lot
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Stuartli
Be assured that something that doesn't work on Top Gear will be dropped - there's too much at stake financially for it to be otherwise.

So the Star in a Car will remain. The key to this is normally the conversation with JC, the actual fastest lap is irrelevant to some extent.
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Pugugly {P}
Lucky the dog (no not that one) is pretty passive. My Springer would have been fighting with the noisy one in that painfully scripted bit about American Muscle cars.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - PhilW
As a caravanner (cue sniggers!!) I found the caravan bit very amusing! In the same way that that film from years ago (Something like National Lampoon Holiday In Europe is amusing - ie, everything that could go wrong, did go wrong and it used every stereotype that it could.)Nevertheless, some bits were plain daft (and dangerous?) - who in their right mind woud try to do a three (hundred) point turn where they did in a car, let alone a car and caravan? Why would anyone when confronted with a burning caravan go back inside to rescue their valuables when they had taken nothing with them? It was good slapstick though, and I did sit laughing - at their total ineptitude!
I await the next installment, where they fly to Monte Carlo, the flight is delayed for 24 hours and has to divert to Milan so they miss the Grand Prix, the car they hire turns out to be an ancient Fiat Cinquecento not the Bentley and they insist on driving on the left rather than the right, their hotel is Formule 1 not the Ritz, their cruise ship is a rowing boat not a 5 star luxury cruiser (and when they eventually get on the cruise ships it is full of 90 year olds who dance with their zimmer frames)and when they want bacon for breakfast followed by Marmite on toast the local shop doesn't stock it.
May their loos all be French "squatters".
It was funny though!
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Altea Ego
PhilW - good lead in mate.

Anyone who has not seen National lampoons Vacation (the first of the series) needs to run (not walk) to the video store. Every time I see this film it gets funnier and funnier. The ultimate family motoring holiday.
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New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - oldgit
Be assured that something that doesn't work on Top Gear will
be dropped - there's too much at stake financially for it
to be otherwise.
So the Star in a Car will remain. The key to
this is normally the conversation with JC, the actual fastest lap
is irrelevant to some extent.

Strangely, the format of this programmes has become 'tired' before its time, I think.

The Caravan scenario was obviously very staged but very funny and most enjoyable to watch and exemplified the nonsense of this activity which stills seems to attract a lot of people, unfortunately for the rest of us who don't want to be held up by this selfish but , nevertheless, legal activity.

No. TG should be shortened in order to try and make it more 'snappy'. I, like others here, record it on my HDD/DVD recorder and start watching it after, say, 10 or 15 minutes and therefore am able to >>FF through the interminable boring pieces such as the useless 'road tests' on cars which amount to nothing more than burning off rubber around the aerodrome - serves no purpose whatsoever and makes my partner leave the room, leaving me embarrassed, to boot.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Leif
It reminds me of The Young Ones + 30 years. Hamster = Mike, Clarkson = Viv, and May = Neil. I suppose the dog must be the Alexei Sayle character.
New Top Gear Thread (from 16/7/06) - Lud
Silly. Pounding the anti-caravan thing into the ground. Funny in a way, but not worth what it must have cost.

I did like the final shot of the caravan skeleton being towed away.