James May and his Jagwah - Micky
The incomparable James May, a Jag and someone else touring France to test the wine and cheese, 8.00pm today BBC2. It's a bit of a surprise to find something that might be of interest on the box these days.
James May and his Jagwah - Honestjohn
You mean Mylene Klass is not of interest?

HJ
James May and his Jagwah - cheddar
You mean Mylene Klass is not of interest?


Perhaps if she was on Love Island with the two Danish speedbirds then yes however in the jungle she does not distract enough from the ongoing dross. A rose amongst too many thorns (with respect to Jason D and Faith Brown's chest!).
James May and his Jagwah - Mapmaker
Oz Clarke, iirc. Did you not read May's columns in the Telegraph Saturday motoring? He sounds like a right fool. I shall not be watching (OK, I don't own a TV).
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
Mylene Klass? Who he?
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
get him a bleedin' haircut!

it is so sad watching a bloke in his forties with hair like that - thinking he's young and so cool

there's a piece about him and his house in the Sunday Mail ( I found it okay!) property section

He sounds like a right old reject from Men Behaving Badly

I can just see him on his sofa with his mountain of empty Stella cans
James May and his Jagwah - AR-CoolC
I hoping I can butt into SWMBO's soap watching to see this. >> get him a bleedin' haircut!
James May and his Jagwah - BazzaBear {P}
I can just see him on his sofa with his mountain
of empty Stella cans


Doubt it, he's a real ale drinker. Wouldn't touch lager with a barge-pole.
You seem to be extrapolating rather a lot from the fact that he has an unfortunate haircut.
James May and his Jagwah - Stuartli
Despite all the apparent cans of Stella he's still a very dry and laidback character..
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James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">he's still a very dry and laidback character..<"

He must be if he can put up with Klaxon and Gerbil.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
"You seem to be extrapolating rather a lot from the fact that he has an unfortunate haircut."

It would be most fortunate if he had a haircut.

(nothing I like more than a sweeping generalisation)
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Haircut... what haircut? I imagine you people will soon be complaining about May's shirt needing an iron and saying corduroy trousers don't suit people with his sort of complexion... What a bunch of dogesses.

Unless they are persecuted by employers most sensible people get their hair cut when it seems to be getting too long, if they can be bothered, and wear what falls to hand.

Is the BR inhabited by secret fashion victims?
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Is the BR inhabited by secret fashion victims?


Not so secret it seems.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
As Swiss Tony would have it - " a beautiful car is like a beautiful lady"

If a chap aspires to the finest things in life, if he has a beautiful car, a beautiful lady, fine clothes, an interest in art and literature, wine and good food

well that doesn't really go with beer and bad hair

oh and may is rubbish with wine too - acts like a schoolboy in the show


James May and his Jagwah - Lud
oh and may is rubbish with wine too - acts like
a schoolboy in the show


Haven't seen the show, just a couple of taster clips earlier on. I got a very strong impression that he didn't get on at all well with the other chap.

Of course TV distorts everything enormously so I could be wrong, as I could be wrong about the other chap not being my sort of person either. And I could be wrong about James May being probably quite easy to get on with.

Perhaps if I saw JM in the flesh I too would start bawling 'Get yer air cut!' as I remember yobbos bawling at me around 1960. But somehow I doubt it.
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
And honestly Mini 30, Swiss Toni? Very dapper. No thanks.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
I can't say that I pay much attention to the length of other men's hair, but perhaps it's more important to those of the feminine persuasion ....
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
ha ha ha - a few of the Status Quo-ers in?

It's like this I wouldn't have an electrician working on my house who was using 1960's building regs

for a lot of people cars are more than just a means of transport - they are a style statement

how highly should one value the 'style' credentials of a chap who's clealy only catching up with the 80s now?

James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">Status Quo<"

Ah, a popular 1960's beat combo, if I'm not mistaken. Whatever happened to them? Something unpleasant I hope.

I think the point about May is that he is a timeless Englishman, quite eccentric, self-effacing and no idea of personal style whatsoever. But he could probably build a Spitfire from matchsticks and still have time to run India, should the need arise.

So May drinking alcohol whilst attempting to converse with the other bloke and sundry French peasants should be fascinating television.

Or not as the case may be.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
He reminds me of Stephen Fry but without the intelligence and wit

I would have had Stephen Fry down as the essential Englishman

I'll probably watch the show just for the horrified look on Oz's face
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
"> He reminds me of Stephen Fry but without the intelligence and wit
I would have had Stephen Fry down as the essential Englishman<"

May reminds of you Fry? Both are English and appear on television I suppose, but that's about it. Perhaps the XJS is the real star of the show?
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">May reminds of you Fry?<"

Who wrote that? Doesn't anyone check before pressing the post button days these?
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
Fry May a river
Fry May a river
Oz Fryed a river over May
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
LOL...
James May and his Jagwah - Group B
Wasn't very interested but having read about it in the Radio Times, sounds like it could be very entertaining. "The beer drinker and wine ponce" as The Radio Times puts it. snipurl.com/131qr
Make mine a Theakston's!

James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">one scene where he tastes some very expensive Bordeaux and declares to the hushed experts that it smells of "Trebor fruit salad" is priceless.<"

and

">May gets to brew up some wine in the back of his car: an appellation unfamiliar to the locals called "Domaine de Boot de Jaguar". <"

Priceless!! I just hope it's not scripted.
James May and his Jagwah - Kingpin
Of course it is all scripted. Everything on tv is rehearsed and set up for maximum entertainment - it must cost that much and they will have a support crew tailing them (in case Jag breaks down) to ensure the budget isn't wasted. BBC might even sell a book on the back of the series.
Musn't spoil it though, after all it is an hour of escapism, just take it for what it is.
No too keen on that Oz bloke obsessing over wine.
May has a new shape Fiat Panda so he can't be all that bad despite the locks.
Not enough English eccentrics left, although I wouldn't rate May as a grade A example. Fry is close. Patrick Moore not long left now and Magnus Pyke RIP.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">Of course it is all scripted. <"

Yes, I suppose you're right. Ho hum.

">although I wouldn't rate May as a grade A example<"

May is starting out on the road to true eccentricity, I think he is probably an unwilling traveller though.
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
May is starting out on the road to true eccentricity,


Er... is there a definition of 'true eccentricity'? Can't help feeling that if there was it wouldn't be really, you know, eccentric.

Eccentrics come in all shapes, sizes and degrees, and quite a high proportion of them are more or less insufferable. And of course eccentricity beyond a certain point would make a person unsuitable for television. TV men like to know what they're getting. They hate surprises. Too expensive.

I was present once at the shooting of a bit of TV in Essex involving an eccentric American friend, now dead. He gave no problems - packaged eccentricity which he had been practising for years - but the shooting was out of doors near a busy railway line. The crew showed the patience of saints with the trains that passed every couple of minutes drowning all sound. What made them burst into storms of expletives was a - murder is it? - of rooks in the trees nearby, who would all start cawing and howling at once, at random intervals. The TV men really, really hated them.

It was extremely funny.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
Lud, I suspect that you may be eccentric.
James May and his Jagwah - Westpig
if i knew someone who was a confirmed miserable old pink fluffy dice.... what would they have to do to become eccentric.........it sounds nicer

please let me know and i'll pass it on to my 'friend'
James May and his Jagwah - barchettaman
Stephen Fry is Welsh.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">Stephen Fry is Welsh.<"

Is he? I thought he was from Naarfuk. Or perhaps that's in Wales.
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Is he? I thought he was from Naarfuk. Or perhaps that's
in Wales.


No Micky, but this is (non-clickable owing to content)

www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=322500&y=234500&z...&
st=OSGrid&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
Lud, you have warped mind. Well done!
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Lud, you have warped mind. Well done!


I'm blushing. I gather it must have worked, but it won't when I try it (from the link I posted, not the original one on a website named in the Danish speed bandits thread).
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
"> Danish speed bandits<"

Danish speed bandits??!! Now that's an interesting thought. Denmark and speeding? Speeding where? Into the Baltic perhaps? Or do the Danes do all their speeding in obscure parts of Wales? I think we should be told.
James May and his Jagwah - barchettaman
Oops.
Further research has revealed he´s actually half-Austrian, half-English, born in London.
Sorry.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
So why do I think that Fry has a Naarfuk connection? Perhaps I am confusing him with a well known nurse? Although I'm sure that Stephen Fry would look dashing in a nurse's uniform.

Stephen drives a taxi.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
Norfolk enchants - I believe

James May and his Jagwah - Leif
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As Swiss Tony would have it - " a beautiful car is like a beautiful lady"

If a chap aspires to the finest things in life, if he has a beautiful car, a beautiful lady, fine clothes, an interest in art and literature, wine and good food

well that doesn't really go with beer and bad hair

oh and may is rubbish with wine too - acts like a schoolboy in the show
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There is a very expensive watch shop in Hertford called Blitz. They sell Rolex, Patek Philippe, Cartier and all the other big names. Some of these watches cost £10K+. Guess who was the star attraction at the opening? Here's a link for those of you who can't guess:

www.blitzwatches.co.uk/shop.asp

Oz Clark had his own radio show about wine on R4 a year or two ago. If that show is anything to go by, he is an incredibly pompous and pretentious person, and astonishingly incapable of eloquent exposition, with a tendecy to use 10,000 words to say nothing. And why when people taste wine, do they discover linseed, leather, engine oil and other odd flavours, and yet I have never noticed one of these people notice raisin? It's the most obvious component of red wine IMO. But what do I know.

I look forward to the show. May is genial IMO. And I hope he sticks the boot in to his side kick.
James May and his Jagwah - Baskerville
And yet as well as being a wine expert, Oz Clark is a member of the British Guild of Beer Writers:

www.beerwriters.co.uk/expertise.php

No sign of James May in that list.
James May and his Jagwah - Dynamic Dave
Oi you lot!

Back to motoring discussion please.

DD.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
Raisin! - ahm raisin a posse to go git 'im
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">Raisin! - ahm raisin a posse to go git 'im<"

Oi, that's not motoring. Flame 'im Dave!!

Stephen Fry drives a taxi. Possibly in Naarfuk. And Austria.
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
There is a very expensive watch shop in Hertford called Blitz.


Just near Barnet I notice from the map in the link. How very appropriate.

JM appears to be wearing a white dinner jacket in the photo. Bit fashionista-celeb for broad daylight in Hertfordshire.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
">Bit fashionista-celeb for broad daylight in Hertfordshire.<"

Ah, you've obviously not visited Herts recently. I thought the jacket looked vaguely yellow in the link, I suspect that the Great James was somewhat embarrassed with the whole thing, but he clearly needs the £££s.
James May and his Jagwah - rtj70
(Mindless nonsense deleted.)
James May and his Jagwah - JH
as Eric Morecambe said "who's that banging the piano with their elbows?" :-)

JH
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
G&T at the ready ...
James May and his Jagwah - Stuartli
Not laughed so much for ages.....
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James May and his Jagwah - Leif
"Not laughed so much for ages....."

Me too. First time I've watched TV for about 6 months and very entertaining it was too. I wonder if the offy's still open?


"Bit fashionista-celeb for broad daylight in Hertfordshire."

I'll have you know that this area of the world is very up market with the likes of the Beckhams aka Thick and Thin living here. 'Ow more up market does tha want lad?

As an aside, and aplogies to get onto motoring, but whenever I drive on the A1, especially near Sandy, Beds, I see lots of old American cars, the huge old ones, and I always wonder why.
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
Hic %%
James May and his Jagwah - Nsar
Well that was an hour of my life I won't see again wasted on cynical, formulaic TV of the very worst kind.

Expect side-splitting capers with a broken down Jag parked outside super swanky chateau inducing apoplexy in OZ Clarke as JM tinkers a bit under the bonnet about 29 minutes into the second episode.

I like James May most of the time in the DT and his contributions to TG are the best bit of that show but that was truly pathetic.
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Yes, it was a bit boring. And they seemed rather offhand I thought with the French. I would have thought Oz Clarke would be a bit more fluent than that. The Jag-boot wine thing was very very silly.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
Wasn't May awful?

- Peering out from behind his grey follicle curtains like a shy schoolboy - the only French person who pointed at his car made plonk was clearly a nutter - green lycra suit with the pockets full of chestnuts, string and marbles

That poor old French lady looking at him squashing his grapes clearly thinking - "Mon Dieu - thank the Lord this man is no son of mine"
James May and his Jagwah - BazzaBear {P}
Wasn't May awful?

Let's face it, your earlier posts in this thread make it pretty clear he could have turned water into wine and you'd have still thought him 'awful'.
You've decided to hate him, and hate him you will.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
I don't hate him -

He put's himself on TV for his own financial reward

I'm simply reviewing his entertainment vale - it's subjective and I don't hate him - I simply don't RATE him
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
sorry - "entertainment value"
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
"> I simply don't RATE him<"

You're Germy Klaxon aren't you. I claim my prize.
James May and his Jagwah - BazzaBear {P}
You seem to have quite a bee in your bonnet about him. You'd already prejudged the programme and him to be terrible before it had been aired.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
I'd seen the previews

He's well known on the telly after all

James May and his Jagwah - Dipstick
I thought it was great. I laughed a lot.
James May and his Jagwah - mini 30 owner
He's on R2 now selling his board game

Go for it May - fill your boots
James May and his Jagwah - Micky
Come along now Germy, you've had your fun but you've been rumbled. So be a good chap and do the decent thing.

What board game? I cannot begin to imagine a board game designed by May. Does it involve spending the carpet money on a Moto Guzzi?
James May and his Jagwah - daveyjp
I saw bits of this after Oz and James were on 5 Live, but I was really disappointed. May's act (or it may be real) of being ignorant of anything which doesn't interest him and his total lack of enthusiasm to learn anything reminds me of the 'Vicky Pollard' character. They might as well have done the show with some 19 year old Chav who Oz was trying to educate on wine - they could have driven across France in a well tuned Saxo instead!
James May and his Jagwah - Westpig
SWMBO and I have just watched it.........and........ really enjoyed it. Good harmelss fun with a bit of humour chucked in....... and education on a subject i'd like to know more of.
James May and his Jagwah - Pugugly {P}
Just watched it as well, it was enjoyable telly. The XJS still looks good even now 30 years on (from the original hard top)
James May and his Jagwah - Lud
Ah yes PU, nice straight example it looks like, still you'd want the stiff one with the roof and flying buttresses wouldn't you?
James May and his Jagwah - Stuartli
>>The XJS still looks good even now 30 years on>>

The last time I drove one and over quite a considerable distance at the time was in France...:-)
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