Article in "The Daily Telegraph" at:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007...l
List of cars at:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/07/31/car.p...f
The "Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion" seems to have the fewest emissions. Car tax seems to be £0/per annum.
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oh where does an armour plated range rover or jag as per gordons transport come in the list?
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I still want to see the figures for manufacturing these cars and the justification (or not) for scrapping a little used runabout and replacing it with a more tax efficient model.
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yep and which ones involve the least green transport for their parts etc, most electric used in production, pollution caused by battery production/disposal (prius would be interesting here?), which ones eat tyres
theres lots more to being environmental than these govt figures suggest
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As Prudence has just jetted across the Atlantic in a chartered Boeing for a quick chat with George and his cronies and bored a couple of big organisations' representatives to death with is views of how the world should be run, I for once take little notice of the Government's claimed green credentials or advice.
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I think id better invest in a horse and cart, I feel so guilty about how bad my car and van are. My van isnt even Euro 4 compliant, eek!
Or of course, if I believe that the seas will rise and the temp will get hotter, maybe ill just build my house on a hill and buy a better air con unit, maybe even buy a lil boat? Hmm, its such a hard choice.
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This has been FAQ no 2 since March at least:-
2. Which cars emit less than 121g/km CO2 and will therefore be Congestion Charge exempt from 2008 as well as only paying £35 VED a year and elilgible for 100% write down as company cars from 2006/07 tax year?
Dated 29-6-2007. To be continuously updated.
Petrol engined cars emitting less than 121g/km CO2
Toyota Prius 1,497cc E-CVT 104g/km
Honda Civic Hybrid 1,339cc CVT 109g/km
Citroen C1 998cc 5-spd manual 109g/km
Toyota Aygo 998cc 5-spd manual or autoclutch 109g/km
Peugeot 107 998cc 5-spd manual or autoclutch 109g/km
Smart ForTwo 2007 5-spd autoclutch 61bhp 112g/km
Smart ForTwo 2007 5-spd autoclutch 71bhp 112g/km
Smart ForTwo 698cc 6-spd autoclutch 113g/km - 118g/km up to 195 tyres
Daihatsu Charade 989cc 5-spd manual 114g/km
Mitsubishi i-car auto 114g/km
Vauxhall Corsa C 998cc 5-spd autoclutch 115g/km
Smart ForTwo 2007 5-spd autoclutch 84bhp turbo 116g/km
Smart Roadster 698cc 6-spd autoclutch 116g/km - 119g/km
Daihatsu Sirion 998cc 5-spd manual 118g/km
FIAT 500 1,242cc 6-spd manual 119g/km
Diesel engined cars emitting less than 121g/km CO2
VW Polo Bluemotion 1 5-spd manual 99g/km (VED exempt)
VW Polo Bluemotion 2 5-spd manual 104g/km
Citroen C1 1,398cc 5-spd manual 109g/km
Toyota Aygo 1,398cc 5-spd manual 109g/km
Renault Clio 1.5 dCi80 (C/BB08EF) EU3 5-spd manual 110g/km
Renault Clio 1.5 dCi100 (C/BB2GO5) EU3 5-spd manual 110g/km
FIAT 500 1,248cc Multijet 6-spd manual 111g/km
Citroen C2 1,398cc 5-spd manual 113g/km
Citroen C3 1,398cc 5-spd autoclutch 113g/km
FIAT Panda Multijet 1,248cc 5-spd manual 114g/km
Renault Clio 1.5 dCi65 (C/BB07EF) EU3 5-sped manual 110g/km
Vauxhall Corsa C 1,248cc 5-spd autoclutch 115g/km (2005+2006MY)
Ford Fiesta 1,560cc 5-spd manual 116g/km
Smart ForFour 1,493cc 6-spd autoclutch 116g/km
Peugeot 206 1,398cc 5-speed manual 116g/km
Renault Clio 1,461cc (86PS) 5-spd manual 117g/km (2006MY)
Vauxhall Astra 1.7CDTI ECO 5-speed manual 118g/km (2003/4 MY)
Citroen C3 1,560cc 5-spd manual 118g/km
Hyundai Getz 1,493cc 5-spd manual 118g/km
MINI Cooper 1.6 diesel 6-spd manual 118g/km (from April 2007)
Audi A2 1,422cc 5-sped manual 119g/km
Vauxhall Corsa C 1,248cc 5-spd manual 119g/km (2005+2006MY)
FIAT Grande Punto 1,248cc (70PS) 119g/km
Ford Fiesta 1,398cc 5-spd manual 119g/km
Ford Fusion 1,398cc 5-spd manual 119g/km
Ford Fusion 1,560cc 5-spd manual 119g/km
Mazda 2 1.4TD 2004MY EU3 5-sped manual 119g/km
Mazda 2 1.4TD 2004MY EU3 5-sped autoclutch 119g/km
Toyota Yaris 1,364cc 5-spd manual and 5-spd autoclutch 119g/km
Renault Modus 1,461cc 5-spd manual and 5-spd autoclutch 119g/km
Citroen C4 1,560cc 6-spd autoclutch 119g/km
VW Lupo 1.4 (75PS) EU3 5-spd manual 119g/km
VW Lupo 1.7 (60PS) EU3 5-spd manual 119g/km
SEAT Arosa 1.4 (75PS) EU3 5-spd manual 119g/km
SEAT Arosa 1.7 (60PS) EU3 5-spd manual 119g/km
Vauxhall Corsa C 1.3CDTI 5-spd manual 119g/km
Vauxhall Corsa D 1.3CDTI 75PS from May 2007 119g/km
VW Polo 1.4 TDI (80PS) from November 2006 119g/km
BMW 118d from July 2007 1,995cc 6-speed manual 119g/km
Vauxhall Astra 1.7 DI Eco 5-speed manual 119g/km (2002MY)
Peugeot 206SW 1,398cc 5-spd manual 120g/km
Peugeot 1007 Dolce 1,398cc 5-spd manual 120g/km
Peugeot 207 1,398cc 5-spd manual 120g/km
Peugeot 207 1,560cc 5-spd manual 120g/km
Renault Megane 1,461cc (86PS) 5-spd manual 120g/km
Renault Megane 1,461cc (106PS) 5-spd manual 120g/km
Renault Clio 1,461cc (68PS) 5-spd manual 120g/km
Skoda Fabia 1.4-litre TDI PD (80bhp) 120g/km
Suzuki Splash 1.3 75PS diesel (from 2008) 120g/km
Vauxhall Agila 1.3 75PS diesel (from 2008) 120g/km
Peugeot 308 1.6 HDI 90PS diesel (from Sep 2007) 120g/km
Link to VCA figures www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/information/how-to-use-t...l
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You can't blame ministers for needing protection. It is a barmy and ill-behaved world we now inhabit.
But I didn't think much of the official list. HJ's above blows it into the weeds.
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Watch this space for a new kid on the block to take away the prize for lowest emissions for a diesel car. smart are seriously considering introducing a UK version of the new smart diesel in LHD form. 88g/km and 80mpg.
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My chemistry's a bit rusty, but would I be right in thinking that diesels emit less CO2 because more of the carbon is converted back to soot?
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It's a trade-off.
The greener the cheaper.
But
The cheaper the more boring.
(It's really to please the Sunday drivers, the tree huggers, the eco-fascists and - as it has been throughout my 6 decades of motoring - the anti-motoring-enjoyment cranks.)
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But surely Tomo there must be a couple of entertaining little rockets in there? Apt for nipping through the clouds of waddling slackjawed carp on today's roads? And charging unmolested through cental London?
Courage!
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What a depressing list of cars.
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HJ: please tell us which are the entertaining little rockets (if any of course).
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Crumbs HJ, that list of sub-121g CO2 cars has grown incredibly in the last few months! There were only a handful when I bought my C4 HDI EGS (2 weeks before the tax went down in the budget!!). Me-thinks that at this rate Ken won't be giving free CON charge to them after all!!
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And yet still the ignorant/vain/politicians think the only solution is to drive a hybrid - there's an interesting leader in this months Car magazine by Gavin Green on this very subject.
Like why do politicians hate the car industry? Why do they promote hybrids when home grown diesels are as efficient in the real world?
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HJ: please tell us which are the entertaining little rockets (if any of course).
Mini Cooper D, with 1.6l engine, 72.4mpg combined, 104g CO2, 110bph, 0-62 in 9.9s can't be too bad.
Failing that BMW 118d with 2l engine?
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those are the new even more efficient figures btw, not the ones above
www.autospies.com/news/Forget-the-Prius-MINI-Coope.../
Pretty amazing.
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How many new car buyers are genuinely influenced by emission figures when making their choice? I bet it's not many.
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When emissions are related to taxes, quite a few buyers are influenced by emissions, judging by reports of the decline in demand for larger petrol engined cars, not just 4x4s.
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But why is the govt so obsessed with purely looking at how much CO2 these cars throw out their exhausts? Why not look at the carbon footprint over the entire life span of the vehicle and its components. Have read somewhere that taking into account the construction process and materials used the Prius has quite a big impact on the environment, and that overall a Jeep has a lower carbon footprint.
Additionally (although this did come from the Mail so wouldn't take it as gospel) the factory that produces the batteries for the prius has decimated a large part of Canada and turned it from forest to barren wasteland.
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But why is the govt so obsessed with purely looking at how much CO2 these cars throw out their exhausts? Why not look at the carbon footprint over the entire life span of the vehicle and its components. Have read somewhere that taking into account the construction process and materials used the Prius has quite a big impact on the environment and that overall a Jeep has a lower carbon footprint.
That study was complete garbage based on assuming the Prius would be scrapped after about 2 years while the Jeep (actually a Hummer) would last forever.
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What a depressing list of cars.
Indeed. Had a Peugeout 107 this week while the Accord was in for its fourth operation on its electric tailgate. If I had wanted to drive a sewing machine, this would have been a good car. Such a relief to get back into the Honda!
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>> What a depressing list of cars. Indeed. Had a Peugeout 107 this week while the Accord was in for its fourth operation on its electric tailgate. If I had wanted to drive a sewing machine this would have been a good car. Such a relief to get back into the Honda!
Well, the 2.2l diesel Accord does just 145g (not to mention 51mpg), which is not so far away from 120g, I daresay in future cars of this size will get in under 120g.....
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I would treat those figures with caution I am running a pug 1007 1.4hdi dolce at the moment and its figures for taxation from thr DVLA are 114g the brochure from Peugeot says 124 and is taxed at £35 the same car with the same engine same output but has better trim but designated "sport"has to pay £115 because for taxation the DVLA have designated it 124g.One more point in mainland europe they use a different system altogether using Euro 12345 plus particle count for diesels its big business at the moment in Germany to get particle filters fitted because some cities and its spreading will not allow you to enter without a badge stating the emissions (which you also have to pay for).
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sport may have more extras which increases CO2 output.
There was an issue with smarts in the early days of splitting tax. Top spec drivers paid more road tax than middle spec as top spec had an auto mode on the gearbox and this increased CO2 output. Same car, same engine - ironically the middle model had a greater bhp output, yet still paid less tax.
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The new Polo Bluemotion can be in band A (£0 RFL) or band B (£35 RFL).
Band A cars have no A/C. Band B cars do.
For the sake of £35, I think I would chose a band B car!
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