This just came in from: andrew.woodthorpe@ntlworld.com Has anyone out there heard more about this problem?
HJ
"I suspect there is a significant problem upcoming with the Peugeot 307. My father-in-law has an HDI 110 GLX bought from Peugeot Sheffield (PS) as an ex demo with 2700 on the clock and 3 months old. It developed a whine which, not matter where you listened, came from the centre of the engine. PS had it in for four days and 'changed a wheel bearing' - ha ha! This is the problem though: last Saturday the car refused to start - column key switch lit all lights but turning to start did nothing. PS now have the car in and have given f-i-l a courtesy car for a month! They say it needs new parts from France as Peugeot France apparently will not let Peugeot UK touch it. The problem is the start part of the ign switch but it causes a burnt-out starter motor as well. Sounds to be yet another known but not admitted disaster looming?"
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"will not let Peugeot UK touch it"
aren't we good enough then?
Oh dear - I fear big trouble ahead....
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My money says that the whine you experienced was probably the starter motor running cotinuously once the engine had started. I cant think of many other ways to burn out a starter motor without hearing it self destruct or having signicant mechanical noises.
If the garage changed a wheel bearing because of this, I can only think the Peugeot France are absolutely correct in not letting the garage have another go! They may change a bulb or cigarette lighter!
pmh (was peter)
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Incidentally my characterful 309 once made the same noise. It was a high pitched whine that adjusted in relation to engine revs and started after hitting a pothole, although I think this point was coincedential. Lasted for 10 miles of very careful worried driving and hasn't made the noise since. Don't know if it could be related to the above problem?!
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Could be Dave - is your starter still working?
I think if it was spinning at engine speed for 10 miles it would self-destruct!
Still, a starter motor held in while the engine is running gives a most awful gut-wrenching noise which would make anybody mechanically-minded grimace :(
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Yeah it works fine; so don't know what the noise was! It can only be described as a squealing that rose/fell with engine speed.
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I'm sure I recall reading about a reader's new 307 being rejected on the grounds of a whining noise in the pages in a recent What Car? Helpline section. Can't remember the story exactly, but I'm sure a new transmission was fitted, but it didn't cure the problem.
It already seems as though this Pug is giving big problems. Why can't Peugeot make cars like they used to in the days of the 205?
Rob E
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I am sure they could/can. However, envirocrats won't let them and I doubt anyone would buy them because, compared with modern cars, they were c*** ;-)
Andy
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The 205 was a brilliant car, until you hit something in it or, worse still, something else ran into the back of you.
HJ
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I had a 205 XS on a D plate some years ago.
Someone went into the back of me. Very solid robust car.
Unfortunately because the boot floor is part of the chassis it was written off as jig work was too expensive.
Very fast in XS guise for a 1.4 engine, but the gearbox and camshaft were very weak points.
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I (gently )rear-ended a dithering 206 some years ago using a BMW 316. BMW: no. plate £5, bumper centre section £17 (Euro Car Parts), labour (me) 1.25 hours. Peugot: £815 = loss of my NCB, premium hike, etc.
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don't drive so close then. simple. your fault.
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You should have seen the damage to a BMW 5 series when it rear ended a Xantia estate at low speed. Glad I drive a frog car.
Ben
On my 3rd Citroen. Saxo, Xsara, C5.
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Hi,
sorry if , my english is not quite good because i am spanish.
This problems appears in a lot of cars in spain. Peugeot send a circular mail to all the users for change a piece of the starter motor.
The name of this piece is "clausor", i don't know if in english is different.
This piece provoque that the starter motor burns.
You can probe if this piece is bad in your car, when you start the engine and notes a hard point when you turn the key.
bye.
Ramon (Valencia - Spain)
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Sounds like starter solenoid?
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Hi Ramon,
Nice that we've got friends in Valencia.
Nothing much wrong with your English; I can only say one thing in Spanish. Here goes: El disco que bengo de comprar esta rayado. Useful huh?
Cheers.
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Interesting.....we had a 406 HDi (90BHP model) brought into us yesterday with total and utter electrical failure - caused by a blown 50A maxi-fuse in the engine compartment fusebox.....turned out the starter had 'kicked in' whilst the car was in motion and burnt itself out....nasty. The drive pinion of the motor was practically melted.
New starter fitted and a new fuse and all was well. Everything checked out OK, all we can summise is that the solenoid short-circuited...
Time will tell!
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