My wife has a Megane Scenic Alize 98S 64K. Although it has a FSH it is tatty outside with a few parking scrapes(!)etc.
My wife wants something smaller (a Ka or Fiesta perhaps) but I don't want the hassle of selling privately and would prefer to go for a dealer part exchange - the issue is that I don't want to part with any cash so a straight swap would be my ideal.
I realise that this gives all the best cards to the dealer - but what do you think my chances might be?
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Ian,
It is just possible to do a swap or reverse deal but boy will you lose out.
Say you just wanted to change your Renault for a different colour, I guess a dealer would want £1500 plus between his inflated retail and harsh trade-in on the same vehicle.
Do a private sale then purchase and you'll end up with cash back. Go on, it's worth a try.
Shame about the scrapes though, the dealer is going to knock off the rectification cost and it'll put off private folks. Worth getting a sensible estimate to do yourself before sale??
Good luck,
David W
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Sorry Ian but your just being lazy ! ;-)
This kind of deal will cost you £ 1500/2000 in real terms so you will being parting with money.
Why not call one of the mobile scratch-removal companies out ?
A Scenic should sell quickly privately if priced sensibly.
With the cash from the Scenic you could buy a Ka/Fiesta privately or thru a car supermarket.
You know it makes sense !
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I recently traded from a 2000W to a 1999T, and the part-ex was equal to the windscreen price. Salesman er-ummed a bit, had to ask the boss, but in the end no probs. I didn't see any reason why there should be, since £1000+ margin was there to be made. On the other hand my car had no scrapes etc. However, both the prices matched closely the figures in Parkers (and were £1500 better than the same deal at the Peugeot dealership down the road). So shop round and reason should prevail somewhere.
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Why not a private swap ad. There have to be a lot more people needing to swap up to a four and a half seater Scenic than down to a two and two half seater Ka. And a mum with three sprogs who is going to scratch the thing anyway is hardly going to be concerned about buying a pre-scratched car if the deal already accounts for that. But my advice would be to avoide a Ka. They seem to be built to last for two years and that's it. Many owners find you can't even change the spark plugs without taking the head off.
HJ
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"Many owners find you can't even change the spark plugs without taking the head off."
John. I think that you (or someone) metioned this before. Are you, or anyone, able to elaborate on the problem ? Do the plugs get "bonded" onto their tapered seats after a fair mileage or is it a case of very difficult spanner access? I have more than a passing interest because of the possibility of an impecunious owner (Neice) looking around for some sucker to do some maintenance for her on the cheap.
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Many owners find you can't even change the spark plugs without taking the head off.
Interesting. I put new pads/discs on a friends Fiesta 1.3. It had the 1.3 engine from the Ka and sure enough one sparker was stuck in.
Is this what you mean?
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Parp, Parp!
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From Parkers: "CRITICAL ALERTS:
Spark plugs can rust into head on 1.3 if left in for more than 10,000 miles ? rectification involves head removal and drilling out.
Cost: £250-£500 "
Also:
"Endura E 1.3 pushrod engine (based on the power unit introduced back in 1962) can develop camshaft trouble ? and not just at high mileage.
Cost: £250-£500 "
Surely you could just get the plug out through force and helicoil it...
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Parp, Parp!
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