Hi there,
I have a problem with my Verso. When I've driven the car for a few minutes a definitive single clunk/knock sound which starts happening intermittently when I apply the brake. It doesn't happen when I first press the brake and the car starts slowing, but only when the car gets to around 15-10mph. You can hear the noise inside the car and feel the clunk through the brake pedal. I bought this car 3 months ago and the fault seemed to be there after a few weeks. I have had it fully serviced about a month ago by a Toyota main dealer and they did a full brake inspection, in which they said they took it apart and put it back together. The noise went away for a month and has started again which is worrying me as my wife and baby use this car and am worried there's a fault with the brakes! Any idea's most welcome
Many thanks in advance for any help
Ian
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Ian
Sounds as if the ABS system is losing signal from one of it's wheel-speed sensors at low speed and is thinking that wheel has locked - so it's releasing the pressure in that line.
Get the dealer to plug in a scanner; come with you on a road-test and watch the individual wheel-speeds as you brake.
Loose reluctor rings and build-ups of rust/dirt on the sensors are the prime causes of this.
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Thanks for your response. I will phone toyota and get them to try your suggestion.
One further question, if this is what you think it is, then is this dangerous? i.e. could the problem get worse and affect braking?
Many thanks again for your hep
Ian
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Any braking fault could come under the definition of "dangerous" - depending on the specific circumstances.
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I too have a simlar problem with my Verso (see 22nd Nov) I initally dicounted the brakes,but since another coast downhill, brakes are back in the frame, as I felt the "clunk" through the brake pedal, so will have a word in Mr Toyota's ear next week..only getting the noise once per journey, but it is worrying.
What was the outcome of djuplifter's prolem?.....tidzertornado
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Hi there,
I took my Verso back to my local Toyota garage twice and both times they said they performed a full brake check and put extra grease on the brakes. The first time this lasted for about 1 month before the clunking started to come back. Then after the second time of greasing (maybe with this special grease this time) it's seems to have stopped the clunking for now and has been fine for about 3 months so far and the fault has yet to re-occur, which is great news. Hope it stays that way. Good luck with your car and hope this helps resolve your clunk too.
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Hi,
From what you are saying I would say that there is no fault with your car as such, the noise / sensation you are feeling is almost certainly going to be just the brake pads moving back and forth slightly in the calipers. Toyota actually supplied some special grease to coat the back of the brake pads to help alleviate this noise. So I would say don't dwell too much on it, your car isn't faulty. It may be worth asking if your garage did in fact grease the back of the brake pads with this special grease. I even have a part number to quote for the grease which is 08887-80609.
Hope this helps
Dave
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Hello it's me again with an update. The clunking returned yesterday with avengence! It sounds worse than ever and happens intermittently when braking at low speeds. It seems the grease has lasted about 9 months and it hasn't clunked for that period. But the noise is back, louder than before and it doesn't fill you with very much confidence when the brakes make this horrible clunking noise while trying to stop the vehicle!! And I thought that Toyota's were supposed to be reliable!!
I'm going to take my car in to Toyota to get them to grease my brakes again. Thanks Dave for the grease part number. It would be interesting to see if anyone else has had this problem.......
Ian
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Sounds to me like brakes assembled without anti rattle pads...
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It must be almost a year ago that I too complained of the "Clunking " noise apparently coming from the Brake Pads(?) I told Mr Toyota of the problem when the Verso was serviced last December (08)..I also gave them a letter explaining in detail ie It always happens when parked for a little while, and have travelled for a few yards..It's "CLUNK" and then nothing until stopped and parked for around an hour..Mr Toyota just stared at me as if I was ordering some Sushi!..when I collected the car (the last "free" under warranty service) they had obviously greased something around the pads, and on joyfully driving off, the CLUNK was still there!...To be frank, the car runs fine, with no braking problems, and the advice given by a earlier thread (a Toyota Mechanic?) that it was "nothing to worry about" seems to be true, BUT, it is still very annoying, and I have NEVER experienced this noise in any of the 30 odd cars I have owned..so I now put up with it, and will take the Verso to my local garage to be serviced now that the warranty has expired..I will point them toward the problem, and see what they think. I cannot believe that greasing inside the calipers, is a cure for what is obviously a design fault...watch this space, in a few weeks time...Dave
SQ
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 03/11/2009 at 12:39
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oh my ...... i thought i was the only one with that problem, it seems to happen most, if not all mornings, and sometimes after being parked for some time....... i have dropped the windows to see if i could hear it any better but it sounds the same with windows up or down...... it usually happens at about 5-8mph after about 10 yards or so. the only way to describe my noise is a kind of click-clunk within about half a second.......... it has happened for the last 3 years since i bought the car. and as luck has it, it doesnt happen whenever im at toyota so they also gave me a funny puzzled (sushi) look.
personally i thought it may be do do with the immobilisation mechanism but then again it would happen all the time, so i have no idea what it might be........ im going to uprate my brakes in a few days, so ill mention it to the mechanic doing the work, and get him to have a proper look. then when the new brakes go on. ill see what happens.
let me know if you find a resolve and ill do the same too. thanks and good luck with your sushi problem. ha ha
SQ
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 04/02/2010 at 10:11
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I think this is just the pads moving within the carriers. Nothing to worry about, but perhaps annoying. We see this a lot on Suzuki swift. Often it goes away once the brakes have warmed up a bit and the pad has expanded slightly.
Hard to cure, but we have found on the Swifts that some aftermarket pads are slightly larger than OE and so stops the problem.
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I have exactly the same problem on a 2008 Mazda MX5 - on the offside front wheel.
It has been into the Mazda dealer 3 times for attention under warranty and there seems to be no fix. "Moving pad" is the only diagnosis but I have been assured it isn't a problem or dangerous.
Annoying - it certainly is. Started without any reason about 5 months ago. I suspect only when the pads are ultimately replaced will it possibly go away - naturaly replacing the pads isn't covered under warranty !
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I have exactly the same problem on a 2008 Mazda MX5 - on the offside front wheel.
It has been into the Mazda dealer 3 times for attention under warranty and there seems to be no fix. "Moving pad" is the only diagnosis but I have been assured it isn't a problem or dangerous.
Annoying - it certainly is. Started without any reason about 5 months ago. I suspect only when the pads are ultimately replaced will it possibly go away - naturaly replacing the pads isn't covered under warranty !
UPDATE
Just in case anyone comes across this thread 3 years down the line ..... I had the front brake pads replaced this year as part of regular service and the noise has gone !
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