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I got a call from the Honda dealer yesterday to say that they had an i-Shift Jazz in as a demo. I thought that it was going to be going for recertification before being released. I checked on the Honda site and it's still over 120 CO2.
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I've asked. Honda hasn't come back to me. I'll ask again face to face on Monday.
HJ
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You are correct the early Honda Press release stated the i-shift was in £35.00 tax however the cars that are in the dealers have a 2008 build vin number, I bet car was the model the EX spec ?.
In the north we do not see any new Jazz models on the road apart from Honda dealers test drivers.
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He didn't mention what spec it was, just that they had one in as a demo. Most likely to be an EX as they like to push the top of the range.
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There are loads of Jazzii in the area where I live - 2 good dealers nearby - but I've yet to see a new one on the road. They're a lot of money.
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True, but many potential (retired) Jazz owners don't really mind that so much because it is a good product for them.
I liked the new Jazz more than the original but with the poor space in the front still and driving position is too high, they also need to improve specs on the 1.2 and reduce the co2. If they fixed a few things they could sell a lot more. Indeed if car companies listened to customers more they they'd sell more product, especially Honda who have no useful Vehicles for somone like myself.
Edited by Pugugly on 17/01/2009 at 21:26
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Honda does listen to its customers.
Remember the original versions of the previous model Civic?
It was designed with a flat floor so the occupants could, if necessary, move about inside the car.
No Ford console. Parking brake handle tucked against the seat. Mums could get to kids strapped into the back seat, etc. (Obviously not while driving.) The driver could easily slide across to get out kerbside.
Then customer clinics said they wanted a console to put their phones on, so in the facelift model one was fitted.
Rendering the flat floor completely pointless (except where the floorpan was used in the CR-V).
HJ
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Then customer clinics said they wanted a console to put their phones on so in the facelift model one was fitted. Rendering the flat floor completely pointless (except where the floorpan was used in the CR-V).
Not as useful as intended, but also not entirely pointless, because it's still useful in the back seat. There is no hump at all under the feet of the middle passenger in the rear, and because Honda gave that model a wheelbase about 6" longer than its competitors (same overhangs, longer wheelbase) the result is three very good rear seats, where the rear passengers can slide across easily.
I can imagine that being particularly useful with larger children, so that three of them can enter the back seat safely and easily from the kerbside.
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Turns out that Honda never even attempted to recertificate it. I guess because no one dared to bring attention to their original mistake. New Honda Jazz I-SHIFTS are being sold with £120pa VED.
HJ
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New Honda Jazz I-SHIFTS are being sold with £120pa VED.
Anyone who can afford £12490 to £13790 for an i-SHIFT shouldn't balk at having to pay £120 pa VED.
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Amusingly, in the Reviews - Press Opinions section on the Honda UK site they have an excerpt from Car Magazine that praises the i-Shift for being 120g/km. The same quote also goes on to say, "it's cleaner and more economical than even the greenest lightweight Mazda 2.", which it isn't (for the Mazda 1.3 engines).
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If they can't get the I-SHIFT under 120g/km then at current tax rates there's no point in it apart from cheapness and they might as well introduce the far smoother shifting 5-speed torque converter auto fitted to Thai, Japanese and US market Jazz and Citys, or re-introduce the CVT-7 as fitted to the Insight.
HJ
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I've asked the dealer to call me to let me drive a Jazz i-shift but they haven't had one in (or if they have they've not called) but I remain happy with the CVT and if there's no tax advantage in the i-shift then I'm even happier to have bought the old shape rather than the new. The salesman says there's a hill start facility on the Jazz i-shift....how does that work??
Edited by KB. on 21/01/2009 at 12:57
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Some readers have now collected their Jazz I-SHIFTs, and found they are £120pa tax.
HJ
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All Jazz models are VED band C (£120 p.a.), not just the i-SHIFT variants. tinyurl.com/76c9g6
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The whole point is that the I-SHIFT was pre-launched at under 121g/km, which was the justification for the I-SHIFT rather than a CVT or torque converter auto. Then the I-SHIFT was launched at under 121g/km. Then, when they certificated it, it came out over.
HJ
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