JC has donkeys that he adores, so his roses will be burgeoning already.
tinyurl.com/clarksonsdonkeys
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I suspect he's delighted. It's free publicity, and also a perfect excuse for him to rant more about how he thinks more that people who don't scoff at climate change are bad as well as mad.
However, a pile of manure is a rather lame form of direct action. Pity they couldn't think up a better stunt.
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Pity they couldn't think up a better stunt.
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Now now!
Never mind your next move to a small holding in Ireland, but how do folk that have ordinary jobs like me (Builder) go about reducing their carbon footprint or whatever it is called. A reduction yes where 'possible', but we have been so socially engineered that we are working our bits off to keep body and soul together so we need vehicles. We need to eat, but have no time to grow our own so sainsco.com need to keep lorries on the road. What our Master's want us mere mortals to achieve is chuffing impossible.
I genuinely wish you well.
MD
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Never mind your next move to a small holding in Ireland but how do folk that have ordinary jobs like me (Builder) go about reducing their carbon footprint or whatever it is called. A reduction yes where 'possible' but we have been so socially engineered that we are working our bits off to keep body and soul together so we need vehicles.
Martin, I think you're right to point out that part of the problem is socially created, and that's why I argue that a lot of it needs social solutions. It's not enough to persuade an individual of the merits of using buses if there are no buses, or to walk more if services are too dispersed, or to cycle if that means dodging between juggernauts.
However, there are things we can do to reduce our impact as individuals, even if those wider social issues aren't resolved. Driving fewer miles where possible, driving efficiently, and choosing more efficient vehicles. The reason I think that Clarkson is a fair target for protests is that he makes his money by encouraging people to go in the opposite direction, and to make the environmental problems worse.
I know that his show is mostly entertainment (and it's very successful entertainment), but a key part of Clarkson's act is enthusing the virtues of individual choices without social or environmental responsibility.
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I think we're all grown up enough to make our own decisions about what we drive and how we feel about the impact of it on world resources. I'm not convinced about cars causing climate change. I am convinced that oil is going to get increasingly more expensive, will eventually become rationed and that finally we will run out of it.
HJ
Edited by Honestjohn on 17/09/2009 at 22:59
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Well, environmental impact or not, lately I've been trying to save money i.e walk more, drive less, keep the lights turned off in rooms where i don't need them, turn off TV, DVD, Wii etc, and some other cost cutting, which is somehow "maybe" helping lessen my carbon footprint. But to be honest, I'm doing this because money is tight.
Will I be less careful and wasteful when money comes around, probably not, as I'm liking this frugal type of living.
So in all, I'm not doing it for the environment, and as other have said, I can not tell anyone else to behave frugally or walk more and drive less etc. A car for me is a necessity when needed, and defiantly i do not drive for "cruising" purposes or for joy of it at least not in town.
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I think we're all grown up enough to make our own decisions about what we drive and how we feel about the impact of it on world resources. >>
Agree. A look at this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
government.wikia.com/wiki/India_Population_Dynamics
should make it pretty obvious how limited any impact any of UK's policies (on reducing our carbon footprint) will have on the world.
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How limited any impact any of UK's policies (on reducing our carbon footprint) will have on the world ...
But that is just a throw-your-hands-up attitude - at the individual level any one (or thousand) of us will have no impact on the situation, which is probably why many people see no reason to change. But if the idea caught on, at the least it would make the oil 'run out' a bit later.
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I am convinced that oil is going to get increasingly more expensive will eventually become rationed and that finally we will run out of
I agree, except for the last bit - the oil will never run out, there will always be some left. Its more about how expensive it gets to extract it from the ground. Based on my beliefs I've made a long term decision to only buy extra economical/diesel cars, everything else is going to depreciate heavily over the next few years.
Peak oil has the potential to have as big an impact on us as climate change. The big difference between peak oil and climate change is that there is no denying peak oil, it will happen - its a fact that cannot be denied.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
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>However, a pile of manure is a rather lame form of direct action. Pity they couldn't think up a better stunt.
Absolutely. They just made themselves look like idiots.
>he makes his money by encouraging people to go in the opposite direction, and to make the
>environmental problems worse.
Do you honestly believe that people who watch Top Gear are going out and swapping their Mondeos for a Zonda because Clarkson likes 'em?
>I know that his show is mostly entertainment..
And viewers who can't recognise his deliberate wind-ups of the eco warriers should have their TVs taken off them. There are far worse programs masquerading as entertainment.
Kevin...
PS. I'd love some free horse manure. The soil here needs it.
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We are working our bits off to keep body and soul together
I don't doubt it for a moment, MD, but it has always amazed me when chatting with our joiner/carpenter how far he is prepared to travel to a job - it must use up valuable 'work' time as well as increasing running cost and overheads. He isn't a casual joiner on short contract, he runs his own small business. That said, he makes enough to indulge his liking for Jaguars (motoring connection).
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