Some advice please!
I bought my (used)Mondeo from a dealer who supplied the car with one remote key and one ordinary key.
My questions are:
1 - Is this the way the car would have been supplied new?
2 - What happens if I lose the remote key or flatten the battery? Can I obtain a new one easily, or is major dealer expense?
3 - Can I change the battery without messing it up?
4 - Is it easier and cheaper to get a spare remote key rather than await the inevitable loss or flat battery?
Thanks all
Andy
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 02/05/2009 at 15:10
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1.Yes.
2.Doesn't matter;unlike some manufacturers,you can use either key in in the locks just as if they were not remote.Ford dealer will supply and programme.
3.Yes;see handbook.
4.Upto you.
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Is this a Mark 1? If so, a red master key was supplied when new and this is required to program new keys to the immobiliser. Programming the remote key to the central locking (req'd if batteries in key go flat) is not covered in the handbook but I have the procedure if anyone wants it - for infra-red Mark 1 only.
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Perfect answer from jc. Applies to 1998MY on.
HJ
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Don't agree with HJ's 1998 on; Ford remote and alarm systems(similar but not identical) have been fitted since Mondeo Job 1. and my comments would apply to all.
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Thanks for the replies, particularly the reassurance that I have all the keys to which I'm entitled and can get a new one reasonably straightforwardly if I lose or trash the remote.
Mine is a 1999, post facelift.
The "ordinary" key i.e. the non-remote one, has a red piece in it, so I guess this is the Master.
I thought the remote system on early Mundanos was different to the later ones. The early ones were IR, with the sensor in the door lock IIRC.
Thanks again,
Andy
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Pre 98 coded to a Ford 'red key'. Post 98, no red key.
HJ
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The Mondeo Mk 1s did have IR sensor in door handle. Mine (second hand) was supplied with an all red master key, a remote key, and two black non-remote keys with the red insert (I was told it had a 'chip' in it). I was told to keep the all red key in a safe place in case new keys needed to be programmed.
Good luck.
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Should have said, I've had the battery out on occasion, but never had any remote key problems yet. It must be time for the remote batteries to expire soon (4.5yrs). Anybody know how to change/part-number/source of cheaper than Ford replacements please? I was told you had to be quick about the actual battery changeover as the internal memorised code could be lost.
Good luck.
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You prise the key apart. Batteries are 2 x lithium coin cells ref 2016 about £4 each in Boots/W H Smith etc. Cheaper in Maplin and cheapest of all at www.7dayshop.com where they are £1.30 for 2 plus £1.95 post. Very cheap for camera batteries too. One fifth of high st. prices. Panasonic with 10 year shelf life.
As stated in previous post, I have the recoding procedure if you need it. Ford or their dealers will not divulge it, or so I was told by a dealer.
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Should have stressed that the above applies to Mark 1 Mondeos with the infra red sensor in the door handles.
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hi can you send me the procedure for reprogramming the key for a mk1 mondeo ?, thanks, Andy T
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AndyT
This is the link I posted back in December. I hope that this time you will just be able to click on it.
Regards
Andy
www.fordmondeo.org/mods_keyfob.htm
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I have a related problem on a 2000 W Focus, I bought the car privately with only the remote key and a promise "it's easy to get an extra key for £5 and you can program it yourself", bigger fool me. I have bought a key from my local Ford dealer who is unable to program the key due to a fault in a module, to replace module is £392 + VAT.
Do you think your procedure also works on a Focus?
If there is a remote chance,please could you send me a copy of the recoding procedure.
Thanks.
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Sorry to hear of your problem but I don't think I can help as the procedure which I have is only for the MK 1 Mondeo which uses an infra-red system with a sensor in each front door handle. AFAIK, the Focus uses a radio system. Perhaps someone else can comment but the cost quoted seems very high. Might be worth getting a second opinion from another dealer.
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Could you please let me know how to programe a remote key for a Mk1 Mondeo.
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www.fordmondeo.org/mods_keyfob.htm
I think this is what you need
regds
Andy
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Big THANKS Andy, it takes about 45secs!
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hi,
can you supply me the recoding details please?Will this re code the immobiliser?
The problem is this.
Had an air leak after the cam shaft was changed. So we changed the diaphram. then the car just will not start. Fuel is getting up to the filter housing but not to the injectors. is this caused by the immobiliser as the car battery has been replaced. If not got any ideas?
Keiron
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It won't re-code the immobiliser. Have you checked the fuel cut-off switch? In the trim panel just in front of the passenger door I think.
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Thanks for the reply keith.This is a 1.8 Turbo deisel does it still have the cut off switch?It won't re-code the immobiliser. Have you checked the fuel cut-off switch? In the trim panel just in front of the passenger door I think.
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I would guess so but mine was petrol so can't be sure. Someone else will know for sure.
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Dear Keithb,
I will surely appreciate a copy as I have looking around for support.
Kind Regards
Moto
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No, it's not a master. This red insert carries the chip the ECU has to recognise. However all keys have to have a chip which the ECU reconises. It's just not so obvious on the remote keys.
JS
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Is this a Mark 1? If so, a red master key was supplied when new and this is required to program new keys to the immobiliser. Programming the remote key to the central locking (req'd if batteries in key go flat) is not covered in the handbook but I have the procedure if anyone wants it - for infra-red Mark 1 only.
Keith I know that it was a long time ago that you posted this message but do you still have the code and if so could you please let me have it.
Thanks
Martina
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Martina, You can get the info from
www.mirez.co.uk/KeyProg.htm
Hope it works for you
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Dear Friend,
I have a Ford Mondeo and is a infro red typor. I need to programme it. Please send me the instructions by e-mail
Thank you.
Kind Regards
Moto
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Dear Friend, I have a Ford Mondeo and is a infro red typor. I need to programme it. Please send me the instructions by e-mail Thank you. Kind Regards Moto
You have hidden your email address so I can't email you. But, as stated in my reply to Martina, you can get the procedure from :
www.mirez.co.uk/KeyProg.htm
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Hi Keith,
I have had a Mondeo Mk 1 since new and the batteries went flat ages ago.The first time they expired,the local ford dealer only charged for the battery.However,now I am told it is costly to have them do it.I don't think I can change the batteries in the specified time of 15 seconds.I would be grateful if you could tell me how to resynchronise if I fail the 15 second test.Would you also confirm the battery type.
Cheers
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Keith hasn't visited the forum since the 12th Nov 2005
The info is provided in the link he posted, namely:-
www.mirez.co.uk/KeyProg.htm
I'm 99% certain the battery will be a CR2032.
EDIT - although further up this thread it says they're CR2016 x 2 off.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 02/05/2009 at 15:13
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I paid £80 at Ford dealer to supply and program a normal key including deprogramming the one remote key I had and reprogramming both, to prevent the original lost key being used should someone have it. A remote key would have been another £15 or so. This was for a 2001 Mk 3 Mondeo which is normally supplied with one remote and one normal key when new.
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Help!!!
I've just bought an 'M' Reg Mondeo Si (2.0 16v). The car came with two keys. Both are original Ford keys but one has snapped and both are worn! I foolishly thought all I'd need to do is get a couple of keys cut but the guy in the shop tells me if he cuts me a key, all it will do is open the doors but not start the car.
I now understand that I should have a got a 'red master' key with the car that will allow me to reprogram keys I have cut using an ignition switching sequence. Well my question is, where do I stand??? Can I use the key I currently have (it has a red 'tab' on it) to reprogram a new key ??? How do the keys work i.e. is it by proximity - I held the Ford key next to the key I had cut to try and start the car to no avail... I wouldn't have thought an electrical signal has to travel through the stem of the key to the lock barrel.
Also would anyone know if this car should have remote central locking???
Thanks in advance,
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Message to all.
Try the website below. It explains all of the keys supplied to each Mondeo MKI,MKII and MKIII and how to program the keys.
Also EBay has some remotes on auction. Selling between £20 and £40. You will have to program these on your own or get a dealer to. Also beware newer type 3 button remotes for 1999 MKII look the same as those on the new shape but apparently have a different chip inside.
Hope this will be of some help.
www.mirez.co.uk/KeyProg.htm
sorted link. See Andy S\'s message for details. DD
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Ta for that Paul, useful link. Best bit is that it tells me how to disable the 2-stage un-locking which has irritated me every time i\'ve used the car.
Andy
ps. If you put http:// before the www, you\'ll get a proper link. See DD\'s post in Announcements for a proper explanation. Hopefully he\'ll fix yours soon
pps. www.mirez.co.uk/keyprog.htm incase he doesn\'t!
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Help!
I typed \"http://\" between the words \"put\" and \"before\", but the site obviously removes them! But I now see that in \"reply\" mode they\'re back. How wierd.
Hope DD\'ll fix my post too!
Andy, sorted it. The software makes the http:// invisible unless you put it in quotation marks (\"http://\"). However if you put an invisible quotation mark before and after the http:// you can do it. To see what I mean pretend to reply to this message and click the \"Quote Orginal message\" to see how I did it. DD
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I note several references here to reprograming the keys. Actually it's the other way round. The keys all contain a fixed, unique, code on a chip. The reprogramming is to programme the car ECU to recognise the 'authorised' keys for that car, not the other way around!
The 'red' keys are important because they contain the access code for the ECU, and it can't be reprogrammed without it!
Regards
John S
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John,
I have a 95 Fiesta. I only have a red key. When I had a new "spare" cut, with a chip, the reprogramming worked but the ECU forgot the new chip in about an hour. I took it back and got another. Same result. Do these work by proximity? If so, can I glue the red key under the barrel and then use new "spare" keys without any chips in them?
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They do work on proximity, but I *really* wouldn't recommend leaving your master key under the ignition. What did the Ford dealers say? The keys should not be losing their coding like that, I can't see why the ECU should be forgetting them either 'cos it's got a constant power supply.
If you haven't tried the dealers yet then give them a go, they will be best placed to advise and weren't even that expensive for me when I needed a new red master key, new spare, and an ignition barrell rebuild on the same car as yours. The total bill for everything was around £150. The red key and ignition rebuild took up most of the cost...
Blue
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Does anyone know if the Ford 3 button remotes can be programmed to start the car in the same way as the non-remote keys can? The car is a Mk2 V6 estate (1999). I have programmed the RF keyfob which works fine but am unable to programme the key to the immobiliser using the usual method with two existing programmed keys.
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