VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - golfgtdude

Hi everyone,

Got this most annoying issue with my car, been the same for numerous months now.

Basically whilst at motorway speeds in 6th gear, hovering around the 2500rpm mark (where pull seems strongest), if i spring some sudden acceleration I can feel a judder occuring through the car accompanied by a hesitation of power. The judder is brief and then the car continues to accelerate.

From cold in the morning, just as the engine temp reaches 90 degrees the car behaves fine but after a few more times driving as described about the judder emerges.

I notice it more when the car is under load, going up hills and with a fuller load (e.g. passender, luggage and full tank of fuel).

I've had it into an independant specialist who couldn't find any diagnostic errors but guessed that it might be the Mass Airflow Sensor - that was duly changed but made no difference.

I'm lothed to take it to a VW dealer now its out of warranty as I feel they'll charge enormous amounts of money to change all sorts until they find the true cause.

Anyone out there had this issue on their VW or another VAG vehicle?

VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - andy-seat
Hi
Did you get the problem sorted?

We have a Seat Alhambra TDI (VW diesel engine), and it developed a fault doing a lot of motorway driving last summer. Took it to our mechanic who could not replicate the fault, but tried replacing a mounting on the drive shaft I think. The problem seemed to go away, but is now back.

Shuddering is variable and only seems to start at speed, and under load or going up hill. The floor of the car vibrates, rather than steering wheel. Altering speed or changing gear can cause it to go away, but then after a while it comes back.

Our mechanic has checked the part he replaced last time but it seems OK. So he is questioning whether it was really fixed.
VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - frogtamer

We have exactly the same problem!!

Started just before Christmas and got told it was the DMF so we had that changed, 3 weeks later it has come back and i am at the end of my tether now!

Got told today it was an inside CV joint, but after looking taking it off and having a look there is nothing wrong with the CV joint.

Everything you have said about your Alhambra is how i would explain my Alhambra is doing .......

Let me know if you get this sorted and vice versa please.

Seat ~ALhambra - Strange judder / shudder accelerating - frogtamer

Just bumping this up as really needing help with this problem.

Any advice or tip would be great please....

cheers from a fed up wifey

Seat ~ALhambra - Strange judder / shudder accelerating - Peter.N.

If this problem is engine related you would be better taking it to a diesel specialist as they usually know what they are doing and are cheaper.

VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - davmal
Slipping clutch? Worn or contaminated, bang the power down, the clutch slips momentarily the bites again.
VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - mastertechGeoff

IIt sounds like it's a fuelling issue when the boost comes in where it's not getting the correct amount of fuel or perhaps it's over boosting, It could also be a fault with the egr system, Your best bet is to get the pump and injector calibration checked and injector leakoff values measured. Make sure your car has not been chipped or ecu software upgraded for performance and try using a premium Diesel fuel initially and see if that has a effect, if it improves it will give you a indication that it is fuel related, It could be a vibration from the flywheel thats transmitting but if there is a fault with the fuelling it will do that anyway and will probably be fine when the fuelling fault is rectified. so in brief try a premium diesel, if it improves get a diesel specialists to investigate furthur.

VW Golf Mk5 TDI - Strange judder / shudder accelerating in 6th gear - gfewster

It is has a DPF (not sure with that model) then it could be clogged. Often gives the symptoms you describe but would not be specific to one gear.

Seat ~ALhambra - Strange judder / shudder accelerating - andy-seat

Thanks for the suggestions and support.

I assume that you have not got any further with your Alhambra frogtamer?

Our problem is getting worse, but still intermittent. Fortunately my wife just drives the car on local journey, but is now playing up on almost every hill now.

The car does not seem to slow down when the fault occurs (which I assume means that all cylinders are still firing) but is sluggish and unresponsive on the accelerator. The vibration is only on the floor of the car not on the steering wheel so I am sure its source is the engine rather than transmission.

It also completely disappears as soon as clutch is depressed.

I think it is possibly a fuel supply problem.

Hopefully I can give it a run at the weekend and then talk it through with our mechanic again. Or may be head for a diesel specialist as mentioned.

History

The problem started off last summer when we were driving in the Alps on some steep hills, a minor vibration which would disappear when you got more speed up or the road flattened out. Not conscious of the problem for rest of holiday but then it came back on the long motorway drive back home, and was quite severe.

Took it to our mechanic a couple of days later but absolutely no sign of a problem, so we forgot about it.

My wife took it loaded on a long journey and the problem came back in a severe way, so she called our roadside recovery. They thought it was the dual mass flywheel, but our mechanic said that this would not be an intermittent fault. Our mechanic replaced a worn drive shaft and roll bars, and had no more problems for months, but then again did not do many long journeys or fully loaded trips.

Edited by andy-seat on 07/02/2011 at 14:05