Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - the_bandit

HonestJohn,

In your Car Advice column for The Telegraph, 13th Jan 2012, you advise that Shell V-Power is the best petrol and BP Ultimate is the best diesel.

Can you tell me why you believe this to be the case? I'm aware of the argument put forward about cleaner fuel systems and delivering better economy it's just what is about one specific brand versus another.

Regards,

The Bandit.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - Avant

This has appeared in the motoring forum, and I'm sure other members will be glad to give their opinions on this. If you want a reply from Honest John himself, you need to write to:

letters@honestjohn.co.uk

Best wishes

Avant (moderator)

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - the_bandit

Thanks for info. I shall write to email address supplied.

Response and opinions from other members not required.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - Honestjohn

Th OP eventually emailed and I answred as follows:

It's a lot about additives.

I rate BP Ultimate diesel as best all round, for fuel economy as well as
fuel system treatment. Shell V-Power diesel has the best lubricity for the
fuel injection pump but does not achieve quite the same economy.

Shell V-Power and its predecessor Shell Optimax are the best petrols
because of their fuel system cleaners and high octane. The combination
allows angines to run cleanly at lower revs and if this is taken advantage
of then better fuel economy will result.

Ignore any tests that refute this because the testers were not driving the
engines to the best advantage.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - unthrottled

Ignore any tests that refute this because the testers were not driving the
engines to the best advantage.

So in othe words, at anything less than Wide Oen Throttle (WOT), high octane/premium is a complere waste of time? The amount of time spent at WOT is very small.

The organisation responsible for conducting fuel economy testing in the US, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), advises consumers that no fuel economy advantage is ever realised with premium gasoline.

In this country, Which? has come come to the same to the same conclusion. As have What car.

Basically, anyone that conducts a rigorous ABA test under repeatable conditions concludes that premium petrol is not an issue.

Results with premium diesel are very patchy-but the situationappears less clear than with petrol.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - thunderbird

So in othe words, at anything less than Wide Oen Throttle (WOT), high octane/premium is a complere waste of time? The amount of time spent at WOT is very small.patchy-but the situationappears less clear than with petrol.

My daily commute is 30 minutes each way, thats 300 minutes a week or 18,000 seconds. I use WOT for perhaps 5, maybe 10 seconds in 3rd if I need to accelerate quickly onto the motorway on my way home on a steep uphill onslip, thats a max of 50 seconds a week. The rest of my journey is just sat in traffic at the same speed as everyone else. Mr Casio says that's less than 0.3% spent at WOT.

I certainly will not be spending an extra 15p per litre for premium diesel when I will only see a possible benefit for a tiny percetage of the time.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - TeeCee

I have to say that my antiquated 1.8 Zafira is a bit picky when it comes to fuel. Best here is BP Ultimate, which makes it very perky, followed by Shell V-Power. This applies across the entire throttle range, from the merest sniff to wide open. Cheap stuff takes the edge off it big time. I have to say that it makes no difference to the economy of the thing though, so I'm paying extra just to make it run "right". Also it eats EGR valves like they're free on the cheap stuff, so I reckon I come out even overall.

The fleet Prius doesn't seem to give a monkey's what I put in it. I ran it on V-Power for a while and then switched to the regular stuff. Both economy and performance were unaffected.

Note also that Shell's "bog" 95 RON now comes badged as "Fuelsave"...........an odd choice of name when the premium product is touted as, er, saving fuel.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - dervdave

I rate BP Ultimate diesel as best all round, for fuel economy as well as
fuel system treatment. Shell V-Power diesel has the best lubricity for the
fuel injection pump but does not achieve quite the same economy.

I`ll go along with that John but BP is more expensive than V-Power on average.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - the_bandit

Thanks for reply HJ.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - ChannelZ

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Tough, you're getting them anyway. :)

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - Ethan Edwards

Indeed odd that so many brands of fuel all seem to originate from just the one refinery.

Which sadly appears to have closed today...Coryton -Corringham in Essex.

Question for HonestJohn re: Fuel (The Telegraph) - RT

The different brands of most fuel originates from whichever refinery is supplying the UK Oil Pipeline (UKOP) in a particular region - it's only at the distribution depots that the brand additives are added to make the fuel unique.

I doubt that Coryton will close down, it costs a lot to shut down and then restart a refinery. Petroplus, who own Coryton, has filed for Insolvency but I imagine the Receivers will be trying to sell it as a going concern. No shipments have left Coryton but it's still in production.